Hemet or San Jacinto? (San Diego, Long Beach: spring break, real estate, 2014)

[Brandon Graves]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

I've found that many people need a proverbial dog to kick to make themselves feel better. It's an especially acute problem in Southern California where materialism and what I call "city envy" run rampant.

For example:

Person 1: "Where do you live?"
Person 2: "I live in Menifee"
Person 1: "Oh, isn't that like a wannabe Murrieta?"
Person 2: "Yeah, there's not much there, but at least we're not Hemet!"
Person 1: "True! That place is a dump!"
Person 2: "Where do you live?"
Person 1: "I live in Banning, you know, adjacent to Palm Springs!"

Hemet has become the Inland Empire's new favorite "dog" to kick right now, much to the relief of Moreno Valley, Victorville, Rialto and Corona.

In the Coachella Valley, their "dog" was Indio for a long time, but now they kick on Desert Hot Springs.

People in Santa Clarita love to kick on Palmdale/Lancaster even though most of them are one missed mortgage payment away from living there too.

Curious, but why Corona?

On another note, Victorville is NOT in the IE, once again.

[AFtrEFkt]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

In the Coachella Valley, their "dog" was Indio for a long time, but now they kick on Desert Hot Springs.

How far back are you going? The 1950s? I don't recall Indio ever getting savaged the way DHS has now, for 4+ decades...

[Brandon Graves]

Originally Posted by AFtrEFkt

How far back are you going? The 1950s? I don't recall Indio ever getting savaged the way DHS has now, for 4+ decades...

Indio was NEVER the "dog," dawg. Y'all are trippin'!

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by Brandon Graves

Curious, but why Corona?

On another note, Victorville is NOT in the IE, once again.

To some, it may not be, but to many, many people, it is.

And that's because politically it is connected to San Bernardino (the county seat) and most people in Victorville/Hesperia/Apple Valley commute down the hill to jobs in the inner-I.E. cities of Riverside, Ontario, Rancho Cucamonga, Loma Linda, Fontana, etc.

Others commute even further into the eastern cities of Los Angeles County (Pomona, LaVerne, Claremont, El Monte).

Additionally, most large and mid-size businesses in the I.E. include Victorville/Hesperia/Apple Valley in their service areas.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by AFtrEFkt

How far back are you going? The 1950s? I don't recall Indio ever getting savaged the way DHS has now, for 4+ decades...

Indio was "savaged" pretty hard in the 1980s and early 1990s before "Coachella" became a thing. At that time, Desert Hot Springs was just a wide spot in the road and didn't register on most people's radar.

Indio, on the other hand, was thought of in terms of its Hispanic population, gangs and working-class element. It was the outlier to places like Rancho Mirage and Palm Desert.

Since Coachella music festival and subsequently Stagecoach, Indio is very up-and-coming and you don't hear the nasty things said about it that you did in the 1980s.

[AFtrEFkt]

Originally Posted by Brandon Graves

Indio was NEVER the "dog," dawg. Y'all are trippin'!

Well, whaddya think I'm sayin,' Bee Gee?

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by Brandon Graves

Curious, but why Corona?

Corona was kicked around pretty hard in Orange County and made light of because it was thought of as "the place people go who can't afford the O.C."

It got even worse after the Anaheim Hills were developed into a planned community in the 1980s and 1990s because people in Anaheim Hills and Yorba Linda thought Corona was "trash", which was really their way of compensating for not living in Newport Beach or Laguna Beach themselves.

It's always easier for people to "pick on" or "kick" the next community over to make themselves feel better off.

It's part and parcel to living in Southern California, I'm afraid.

[Brandon Graves]

Indio could still belong on the mid-to-lower end of spectrum in terms of desirability of the cities and towns in the Coachella Valley, along with Cathedral City, Coachella, and Desert Hot Springs, IMO.

[AFtrEFkt]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Indio was "savaged" pretty hard in the 1980s and early 1990s before "Coachella" became a thing. At that time, Desert Hot Springs was just a wide spot in the road and didn't register on most people's radar.

Indio, on the other hand, was thought of in terms of its Hispanic population, gangs and working-class element. It was the outlier to places like Rancho Mirage and Palm Desert.

Since Coachella music festival and subsequently Stagecoach, Indio is very up-and-coming and you don't hear the nasty things said about it that you did in the 1980s.

No, Indio was not. In the 1980s, DHS was already well into its "bashdom." DHS was not a "wide spot in the road that didn't register on most people's radar." I had friends who lived there and took the bus down to Palm Springs High School. DHS wasn't a faraway land. It was regarded as an armpit, and it's since been downgraded to a sphincter.

[Brandon Graves]

Seriously, do y'all think Indio is that bad?! I mean, sure, we have our fair share of crime (above the national average, but still) and gangs, but it does NOT compare to San Bernardino, or even Victorville! Y'all need to take a trip to those cities sometime!