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Old 11-21-2018, 02:03 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So here is the question, will Riverside/San Bernardino ever develop their own sense of identity strong enough to lure people? Or will they forever be a suburb of LA?

Personally I want Riverside to develop an identity that would lure people. I think if the entire region would develop into a cohesive unit that attracted people to its different centers, it would be amazing - LA, Long Beach, OC, Riverside.

LA population is getting closer to the size of NY with the ability to grow taller (that's including Riverside which is usually left out). However people are not so fond of the IE and I think that it could do better.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:48 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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So here is the question, will Riverside/San Bernardino ever develop their own sense of identity strong enough to lure people? Or will they forever be a suburb of LA?

Personally I want Riverside to develop an identity that would lure people. I think if the entire region would develop into a cohesive unit that attracted people to its different centers, it would be amazing - LA, Long Beach, OC, Riverside.

LA population is getting closer to the size of NY with the ability to grow taller (that's including Riverside which is usually left out). However people are not so fond of the IE and I think that it could do better.
I think so too if Phoenix can survive that far inland so can the IE, but LA, and OC will always be next door.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: NNV
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However people are not so fond of the IE and I think that it could do better.
How did you draw this conclusion? The fastest growing region in the state and at least 4.2 million live there? So it can't be that bad.

Why didn't you place this thread in the San Bernardino/Riverside forum?

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Old 11-21-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Anaheim
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So here is the question, will Riverside/San Bernardino ever develop their own sense of identity strong enough to lure people? Or will they forever be a suburb of LA?

Personally I want Riverside to develop an identity that would lure people. I think if the entire region would develop into a cohesive unit that attracted people to its different centers, it would be amazing - LA, Long Beach, OC, Riverside.

LA population is getting closer to the size of NY with the ability to grow taller (that's including Riverside which is usually left out). However people are not so fond of the IE and I think that it could do better.
It already has one.

They're not really suburbs of LA. They started their "lives" out separately from the city of Los Angeles.

That development is well on its way. For some, that's a minus. That area lures people BECAUSE of more open space (which equals less "cohesiveness").

Which people are not so fond of the IE?

Better how?
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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It has an identity, and IMO more of one than most any other city in the IE.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Riverside has a MSA population of 4 million. But no one would seriously compare it to another city with almost 4 million - Seattle. Even Anahaeim in the OC has a hockey team and had a baseball team. The fundamental problem that I see is that people still move to Riverside mostly because it is just cheap housing, not for QOL and to be there. Sure Riverside proper is quite nice, I used to live there personally. However I do think that the IE as a whole is mostly a suburb. If you drive in the morning on the 91 towards Riverside it is a nice drive. Going towards LA it's terrible, and that is if you live in Corona which is close by. Why is that? Because people really are trying to get to LA, not to Riverside or San Bernardino. Ask people about SB and you get a pretty bad response.

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I think so too if Phoenix can survive that far inland so can the IE, but LA, and OC will always be next door.
I'm quite a fan of Phoenix, but personally I think that Phoenix embraced it's desert climate and look in a beautiful way that most of the IE has not done.

Personally I think that Riverside proper has done a much better job than most of the surrounding area. I'm a fan of the downtown with the Mission Inn, I like the craft houses, I like Fairmont Park etc. But I think the surrounding area really is a giant suburb that doesn't pay Riverside too much attention.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:47 PM
 
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Riverside has a MSA population of 4 million. But no one would seriously compare it to another city with almost 4 million - Seattle. Even Anahaeim in the OC has a hockey team and had a baseball team. The fundamental problem that I see is that people still move to Riverside mostly because it is just cheap housing, not for QOL and to be there. Sure Riverside proper is quite nice, I used to live there personally. However I do think that the IE as a whole is mostly a suburb. If you drive in the morning on the 91 towards Riverside it is a nice drive. Going towards LA it's terrible, and that is if you live in Corona which is close by. Why is that? Because people really are trying to get to LA, not to Riverside or San Bernardino. Ask people about SB and you get a pretty bad response.



I'm quite a fan of Phoenix, but personally I think that Phoenix embraced it's desert climate and look in a beautiful way that most of the IE has not done.

Personally I think that Riverside proper has done a much better job than most of the surrounding area. I'm a fan of the downtown with the Mission Inn, I like the craft houses, I like Fairmont Park etc. But I think the surrounding area really is a giant suburb that doesn't pay Riverside too much attention.
True, as I lived in the IE for almost 10 years and I can only think of one time I didn't just drive through/by Riverside.
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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Think of it like a relatively high-end mall with anchor stores.

Los Angeles County will always be Neiman Marcus and Nordstrom. Orange County will be Bloomingdales, Riverside will be Macy's and San Bernardino will be Target (I love Target, btw).

When people talk about the mall, they'll always identify it with its most prominent anchors (Neiman Marcus and Nordstroms).

That's the way Greater Los Angeles Area is.

Yes, you can have suburbs and extensions of the metropolitan area with their own distinct identities, but they'll always be under the umbrella of the largest city.

Palm Beach and Boca Raton have their own identity, yet, they are both still part of the Miami Metro.

Greenwich, CT; Bridgewater, NJ and the Hamptons on Long Island all have their own individual identities, but they will always be part of the New York City metro (Tri State) region.
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:06 PM
 
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Does Riverside have any more, need more, an identity as SGV, South Bay, OC? They are all suburbs of LA City.
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