What's the IE like? (Empire: cities, good, urban)

[TBCasino]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

So that would be every link on this thread, no?

Oh, no; here's another one: https://www.pulte.com/blog/what-is-the-inland-empire

Yep, every last one of them, even that one you just posted, lazy and beyond help.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

So that would be every link on this thread, no?

Oh, no; here's another one: https://www.pulte.com/blog/what-is-the-inland-empire

Don't see Coachella Valley here: https://www.cacities.org/Member-Enga.../Inland-Empire

For me the IE is everything between Pomona/Claremont to Banning and from the Cajon Pass to Temecula. Even Beaumont/Banning I kind of consider the "outer IE" because it can be snowing in Banning while raining in Moreno Valley and Pomona. But they have a lot in common to areas west, including the spillover growth and some new jobs.

If you're looking at it in the most technical form, then yes all of those cities are in the Inland Empire because there's only two (very large) counties in it. But culturally and geographically, the Inland Empire is split into many distinct parts. Because most people in the IE live nearest LA/OC county borders, that's the only area considered the IE. The High Desert is over a mountain range, the Coachella Valley is over a couple mountain ranges, etc. The temps and landscapes also vary a lot which adds to the difference.

What most people consider the IE, the places connected to LA/OC via Metrolink and bus lines, is increasing in value. You have multiple universities, increase in white collar and warehousing jobs, and still a good amount of land for those who want new houses but don't want to leave the area entirely. And Riverside will take over as the downtown urban area for the IE with new mixed-use developments and office buildings. San Bernardino could see growth there too if the city gentrifies but it has a longer way out.

[rubing]

Us Banningites live in the San Gorgonio Pass area or sometimes referred to as simply the pass or pass area. We are a proud and independent folk and not the subjects of or an outpost of your wretched empire.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Don't see Coachella Valley here: https://www.cacities.org/Member-Enga.../Inland-Empire

That post was in response to Blythe, though, not the entire Coachella Valley.

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Because most people in the IE live nearest LA/OC county borders, that's the only area considered the IE.

That's an interesting definition.

"There is no universally accepted definition for the boundaries of the Inland Empire region.

Physical boundaries between Los Angeles and the Inland Empire from west to east are the San Jose Hills splitting the San Gabriel Valley from the Pomona Valley, leading to the urban populations centered in the San Bernardino Valley.[15] From the south to north, the Santa Ana Mountains physically divide Orange County from Riverside County. The Santa Rosa Mountains, as well as the Southern California portion of the Sonoran Desert, physically divide Riverside County from San Diego County.[16] Some definitions for the IE include the Chino Valley, Coachella Valley, Cucamonga Valley, Menifee Valley, Murrieta Valley, Perris Valley, San Jacinto Valley, Temecula Valley, and Victor Valley.

Some residents of certain areas within the three counties, such as Twentynine Palms, the Coachella and Temecula valleys, consider themselves separate from the IE. The California Travel and Tourism Commission (CTTC), a not-for-profit, nongovernmental entity that promotes tourism in California, divides the state into several regions for its own purposes. The CTTC defines the Inland Empire as being bounded by Los Angeles County and Orange County on the west, San Diego County on the south, as far north as the Victor Valley area, and as far east as Idyllwild in the San Jacinto Mountains. The state of California's official website links to the CTTC's map with the description "Map of the Inland Empire region".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire

"San Bernardino County is a key component of the Inland Empire – or at least parts of it. See, the definition of the IE has always been a little wobbly. There have been arguments over the years about who’s in and who’s out."

Keeping the IE where it belongs: https://www.pe.com/2015/09/29/mucken...re-it-belongs/

[colt22]

Originally Posted by rowhomecity

I have only driven through it, but always thought the IE had a negative stigma.

Is this true? Is it safe? Downtrodden? That was my perception. Looking at real estate in San Bernandino it looks quite affordable for being SOCAL.

Are the schools good? How about crime? What parts of IE are desirable? Any? And what areas are high crime and run down?

Thanks for the insight.

Stay away from San Bernardino like the plague. There are a few pockets of decent areas but everywhere that you have to go for shopping, restaurants, etc. are in areas with a lot of crime. The schools are horrible. Look up the crime stats for San Bernardino.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by rubing

Us Banningites live in the San Gorgonio Pass area or sometimes referred to as simply the pass or pass area. We are a proud and independent folk and not the subjects of or an outpost of your wretched empire.

Funny you say this. I brought this up to someone I know who was born and raised in the Beaumont/Banning area and whose entire family still lives around there and into Palm Springs. They were adament that they live in the IE (the Beaumont/Banning people). The ones in Palm Springs don't consider themselves the IE at all.

[AFtrEFkt]

^Correct. The Coachella Valley is not part of the Inland Empire. Outsiders subscribe to that misconception.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by AFtrEFkt

^Correct. The Coachella Valley is not part of the Inland Empire. Outsiders subscribe to that misconception.

"There’s no lack of individual efforts to brand areas of the Inland region.

A railroad pamphlet from the turn of the 20th century promoting tourism to the “Orange Empire” may have been the first of any empire references, Burgess said. But “inland empire” may have first appeared in the Riverside Enterprise (which eventually became ThePress-Enterprise) to describe Riverside County in April 1914.

Shortly after the Riverside Enterprise referred to the “inland empire,” the San Bernardino Daily Sun followed with an “Inland Empire” news section between October 1920 and 1922 to describe San Bernardino and eventually an area that included Ontario, Upland and Chino and as far east as Banning, said Larry Burgess, director of the A.K. Smiley Public Library in Redlands.

“It sorta stuck,” Burgess said.

Other definitions since have had the region stretching from Claremont to east of Palm Springs — or essentially any city within Riverside or San Bernardino county boundaries.

“It’s a moving target, it really has no end or beginning,” Burgess said.

The same could be said for the debate."

To Inland Empire name, some say no thanks:
https://www.pe.com/2011/03/23/to-inl...say-no-thanks/

[AFtrEFkt]

The Coachella Valley and points eastward (not counting the high desert region that Morongo Valley, Yucca Valley, Joshua Tree and 29 Palms occupy) comprise the Desert Empire.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by AFtrEFkt

The Coachella Valley and points eastward (not counting the high desert region that Morongo Valley, Yucca Valley, Joshua Tree and 29 Palms occupy) comprise the Desert Empire.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...esert%20Empire