05-06-2009, 05:31 PM
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I am currently living about 5 minutes from Portland Oregon and will be moving to San Bernardino...why? I would like to get away from EVERYTHING up here...Long story.
05-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Location: Tega Cay, SC
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Are you sure?
Hmm...there must be SOME reason you are headed specifically to San Bernardino so I guess it is pointless to try to dissuade you. As someone who is moving back down that way next month and who is also very familiar with Portland, I would recommend going on up into the San Bernardino Mtns (Crestline, Lake Arrowhead, Running Springs). Big Bear would be even better, but if you are working in or tied to San Bernardino for some reason, the drive is way easier (and faster) up 18 or 330 to those three communities. You will be in less polluted air for your kids and in 15 to 20 degree cooler air. Our kids were all athletes and we had to drive them off the mountain for competitive sports, but there is plenty of skiing, hiking, mountain biking (designated areas) on the mountain. Big Bear is not that far away from the other communities and that is where you would do water sports (Lake Arrowhead is private). California has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country right now and San Bernardino County's is higher than California's. Jobs on the mountain are scarce, so you would drive down every day for work, but it really is not that big of a deal - less traffic coming down than anywhere else in SoCal. San Bernardino is hurting right now - lot of crime, no jobs, air is VERY polluted and move over hell in the summer; however, new areas for shopping and eating are nice. Are you truly stuck on San Bernardino or would you consider other Inland Empire cities or Riverside or LA counties? Also, do your kids like 100+ degree heat?
05-06-2009, 11:10 PM
Location: OC, CA
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I hope you realize it is really expensive to live in SoCal especially with 4 children. The cost of living may shock you.
05-07-2009, 01:39 AM
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I hope you realize it is really expensive to live in SoCal especially with 4 children. The cost of living may shock you.
Not if you live in the ghetto armpit of SoCal known as San Bernadino.
05-07-2009, 10:02 AM
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Hmm...there must be SOME reason you are headed specifically to San Bernardino so I guess it is pointless to try to dissuade you. As someone who is moving back down that way next month and who is also very familiar with Portland, I would recommend going on up into the San Bernardino Mtns (Crestline, Lake Arrowhead, Running Springs). Big Bear would be even better, but if you are working in or tied to San Bernardino for some reason, the drive is way easier (and faster) up 18 or 330 to those three communities. You will be in less polluted air for your kids and in 15 to 20 degree cooler air. Our kids were all athletes and we had to drive them off the mountain for competitive sports, but there is plenty of skiing, hiking, mountain biking (designated areas) on the mountain. Big Bear is not that far away from the other communities and that is where you would do water sports (Lake Arrowhead is private). California has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country right now and San Bernardino County's is higher than California's. Jobs on the mountain are scarce, so you would drive down every day for work, but it really is not that big of a deal - less traffic coming down than anywhere else in SoCal. San Bernardino is hurting right now - lot of crime, no jobs, air is VERY polluted and move over hell in the summer; however, new areas for shopping and eating are nice. Are you truly stuck on San Bernardino or would you consider other Inland Empire cities or Riverside or LA counties? Also, do your kids like 100+ degree heat?
I would consider other cities, more so after hearing so many horrible things about San Bernardino. I realize that things are going to be WAY different than up here in the Pacific Northwest...but in a way I am kind of welcoming a big change. My oldest two kids are only 10 and 6...my 6 year old being the one that is sportsminded. Any info on surrounding cities and info on schools/sports programs would be nice. Also, what about colleges? I am interested in finishing up my schooling. No, my kids won't mind the heat...well I guess we only hit over 100 degrees up here maybe a handful of days during the summer though.
05-07-2009, 01:23 PM
Location: Tega Cay, SC
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some other places...
Well, since it's southern California, there are innumerable options for sports programs for kids (and colleges too). If you stayed in Inland Empire (which stretches across parts of Riverside/San Bernardino/LA counties) there are colleges everywhere BUT resident tuition is cheaper than out-of-state (except for private colleges and there are plenty of those too). Communities w/schools great for kids in IE would be Rancho Cucamonga, Upland, Claremont (awesome college town but pricey). Montclair is supposed to be less expensive than Claremont but with similar environment. Remember, any of these places are in the middle of some of the busiest freeways in the country - count on traffic jams, smog, relentless city noise. Plus, as already mentioned, the cost of living in SoCal is EXPENSIVE - you will have to do major Craigslist time to find a place and probably will not be a house. Check the forums here for the safest neighborhoods of whatever town you decide on. The cities mentioned above would be more likely to have jobs. If you go further south, Temecula is a community often recommended for families, though I think it is too hot and windy; possibly more availability of big houses to rent and good schools - you would have to drive far for university, though. These forums are invaluable once you narrow down your choices; give us a little more info on what you are looking for and then people can respond.
05-07-2009, 02:15 PM
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Well, since it's southern California, there are innumerable options for sports programs for kids (and colleges too). If you stayed in Inland Empire (which stretches across parts of Riverside/San Bernardino/LA counties) there are colleges everywhere BUT resident tuition is cheaper than out-of-state (except for private colleges and there are plenty of those too). Communities w/schools great for kids in IE would be Rancho Cucamonga, Upland, Claremont (awesome college town but pricey). Montclair is supposed to be less expensive than Claremont but with similar environment. Remember, any of these places are in the middle of some of the busiest freeways in the country - count on traffic jams, smog, relentless city noise. Plus, as already mentioned, the cost of living in SoCal is EXPENSIVE - you will have to do major Craigslist time to find a place and probably will not be a house. Check the forums here for the safest neighborhoods of whatever town you decide on. The cities mentioned above would be more likely to have jobs. If you go further south, Temecula is a community often recommended for families, though I think it is too hot and windy; possibly more availability of big houses to rent and good schools - you would have to drive far for university, though. These forums are invaluable once you narrow down your choices; give us a little more info on what you are looking for and then people can respond.
Maybe everyone could start off by letting me know where NOT to live in San Bernardino and surrounding areas. I would like to keep the entire gang scene as far away from my impressionable boys as possible. My ex husband is an ex gang member...and I have finally instilled into my boys' heads that gangs are NOT the way to go. I also checked out the info on San Bernardino Valley College, and yes I will be paying quite a bit more because of my out of state residency. I have been searching craigslist just to kind of get a feel for rental costs. I am paying 950 a month for a large 2 bedroom 2 bath house...but its on 1/4 acre of nice fenced in yard. I am currently only making 10 dollars an hour as a temp. service coordinator/receptionist. My job would pay more but because of our 'booming' economy...we are in a salary freeze. What kind of pay could I expect to recieve if I were lucky enough to find an office/accounting/data entry job?
05-07-2009, 03:55 PM
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Any reason in particular San Bernardino?
05-07-2009, 06:18 PM
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Any reason in particular San Bernardino?
The only particular reason is because my best friend lives there....and its far enough from where I am at now that I think I will be alright....
05-07-2009, 07:01 PM
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From what I hear, don't live below 33rd St in San Bernardino. We live up near Cal State San Bernardino and everything is fine. Rent in an apartment complex is about $1000-$1250 for 2 bedroom/2 bathrooms. I think it's a tough job market though. Suggest you call up temp agencies and see what their wait list is like.
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People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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