How does the Inland Empire region compare to Phoenix?

[JohnSoCal]

Not all of the IE is smoggy. The South Western area, ie Murrieta and Temecula are not smoggy. I like Phoenix having lived there but far prefer the Temecula Valley.

[BGS91762]

Most of the IE is not that smoggy anymore. I moved to Upland 25 years ago and didn't see the mountains for months. Now we see the mountains most days of the year even in the summer. 100 percent better than when I moved here.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

Most of the IE is not that smoggy anymore. I moved to Upland 25 years ago and didn't see the mountains for months. Now we see the mountains most days of the year even in the summer. 100 percent better than when I moved here.

Yes, it's definitely better than it used to be. But air quality has improved everywhere, and people are creatures of comparison and of the present. They don't care about the air quality 25 years ago. They compare air quality of Place A of today with Place B of today. But you could be right....in another decade it may be a moot point.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by Sorcerer68

The trend in real estate development, not only in Los Angeles but nationwide is moving sharply away from car based communities.

That's because U.N. Agenda 21 is being forced on us, as explained here (by a liberal Democrat, I might add). Here is the short version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKHqY7uxSg

Here is the more detailed version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykELwj1Ta8

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

That's because U.N. Agenda 21 is being forced on us, as explained here (by a liberal Democrat, I might add). Here is the short version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKHqY7uxSg

Here is the more detailed version:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykELwj1Ta8

Indeed. Global warming is grossly exaggerated for this reason. Every possible weather pattern and/or even earthquakes are thus blamed on there being too much methane and Co2 in the atmosphere.

In addition, our previous standard of living made others jealous, and, as such, it had to be curtailed. This ties into the "sustainable development" model which makes it easy to surveil us, monitor us, train us (in the correct way of thinking), deliver crumbs to us, all while the elites continue to enjoy all of the amenities previously available in the U.S. A much better model would be to stop immigration and push birth control. We wouldn't need all this darn construction. We know who wants all this darn development.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Indeed. Global warming is grossly exaggerated for this reason. Every possible weather pattern and/or even earthquakes are thus blamed on there being too much methane and Co2 in the atmosphere.

In addition, our previous standard of living made others jealous, and, as such, it had to be curtailed. This ties into the "sustainable development" model which makes it easy to surveil us, monitor us, train us (in the correct way of thinking), deliver crumbs to us, all while the elites continue to enjoy all of the amenities previously available in the U.S. A much better model would be to stop immigration and push birth control. We wouldn't need all this darn construction. We know who wants all this darn development.

That's pretty much what Rosa Koire, the woman in the videos, said. I think she believes in global warming to a degree, but she believes it's being used as a convenient foil for seizing power and control. She talks about how she never buys new clothes and how her partner is a construction contractor and how they built their house out of reused/recycled materials, so I think she has some real credibility. She also talked about how much easier it is to surveil people when they live in densely populated cities.


I also totally agree the elites will live the way they always have, maybe better once they clear people out of rural and suburban areas. Just look at Al Gore as Exhibit A with his 20 room mansion on lots of ground.


I am not against all immigration, although I am against illegal immigration. In general, I think having educated immigrants in America is a good thing. Uneducated immigrants, while not bad people, are not good candidates for immigration. Each country should develop their economies better and take care of their own poor people. As far as birth control goes, the developed countries actually are facing demographic decline. It's the poor countries that have the issue with overpopulation, and even many of them have reduced their birth rates significantly.