Why is my speeding ticket so high $440? (buying, law)

[Jenkay]

Originally Posted by GatorMama

* JenKay, enjoy your vacation.

Thank you

And as for everything else, well said.

[Bandon]

Originally Posted by Jenkay

Thank you

And as for everything else, well said.

Yeh. Because verbally abusing other people is REALLY applaudable.

[Jenkay]

Originally Posted by Bandon

Yeh. Because verbally abusing other people is REALLY applaudable.

????? Where, what?

There's nothing in the post I quoted that even be remotely construed as abuse.

Wow....

[dougstech]

Originally Posted by angrygreenfraggle

I was pulled over for speeding at 86 mph. The speed limit was 65 I believe. I was informed by mail that my ticket cost would be $440 and if I wanted to go to traffic school it would be $492. This ticket is way out of my budget it just seems way too high! I guess my question is why is my ticket so high? And is there a way I can lower it? The voilation is 22349A any advice would be appreciated.

Get radar detector

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by Bandon

Well, going on the rash of elderly who have mistaken the gas for the brake and driven into buildings killing and maiming people in my area (one of them a couple blocks away from here), I would say as soon as your reflexes and mental capacities have degenerated to the point that you are having small "accidents". BEFORE you kill someone.

To me it's the height of selfishness to continue to drive out of stubborness (it's my right, dammit !!!) when you KNOW plain well you are unsafe on the roads.

Fair enough. Then let's consider those that are young and reckless and lack patience and good judgement as well.

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by Bandon

The only reason I made that comment about the As in school was because JENKAY said that I had low-reading comprehension. It had nothing to do with the arguement at hand.

Rage does indeed come from within. Someone may have pulled out in front of you but it is not their fault that YOU are mad, you choose your emotions, no one else. Personal responsibility includes YOUR emotions that YOU choose.

Seriously....dude, take a look at what you've been writing:

It's not your fault you were late for work.
It's not your fault you got mad.
It's not your fault you wrote what you wrote.

It's always the fault of someone else, it's never you.

Again, no control over yourself or your emotions. It would behoove you to learn how to do just that. Your life will be much more peaceful. Feel free to scribe what you will, I've said my peace, I've tried to offer some suggestions and you don't want to hear any of it, you'd rather be angry.

Anger is not going to get you very far...and it's going to eat away at your health.

Keep this in mind: Pick your battles. Not every thing is worth the aggravation and hassle.

You will NEVER change other people, you can only change yourself and how you react to those people.

Peace out.

[Bandon]

Rage does indeed come from within. Someone may have pulled out in front of you but it is not their fault that YOU are mad, you choose your emotions, no one else. Personal responsibility includes YOUR emotions that YOU choose.

So you're honestly saying to me that people don't affect other people ? That would be wrong. And speaking of this responsibility thing you keep speaking of, aren't other people responsible for how they affect other people ? They ARE. It's called karmic debt. What you're saying is just meaningless society blather meant to keep people in line and taking the onus off the person who was rude in the first place.

Seriously....dude, take a look at what you've been writing:

It's not your fault you were late for work.
It's not your fault you got mad.
It's not your fault you wrote what you wrote.

It's always the fault of someone else, it's never you.

I never said I was late for work repeatedly. I used an anecdote from the past to illustrate the point that you can't know how much earlier to leave if you don't know how fast you are going to be allowed to go. Why aren't you understanding this simple concept ?

As for the "It's not your fault you wrote what you wrote". Well, I just don't get THIS one.

Again, no control over yourself or your emotions. It would behoove you to learn how to do just that. Your life will be much more peaceful. Feel free to scribe what you will, I've said my peace, I've tried to offer some suggestions and you don't want to hear any of it, you'd rather be angry.

No. I would most definitely rather not be angry. I just think that all drivers need to be considerate. Not just the ones who want to go the speed limit. You seem to want to give the slower drivers a pass and vilify the innocent ones who merely insist on going the speed limit. What's up with that ? Oh, and unless you haven't lost close to you then you shouldn't go around telling other people they should be smiling all the time like a cult member or a Stepford clone. People get angry. It's HUMAN NATURE. I'm getting sick of society trying to drain humanity out of people. It's like the movie "Equilibrium". Have you ever seen that ? It's about a futuristic society where it's been deemed a crime to show emotion. And we're already there. You should watch it. You might think twice about telling people they shouldn't be feeling/showing emotion.

Anger is not going to get you very far...and it's going to eat away at your health.

Yeh. Well, that's part and parcel of being stuck in a city I suppose. There's alot of angry people out there. You make it sound like It's only ME.

Keep this in mind: Pick your battles. Not every thing is worth the aggravation and hassle.

That's always been a challenge with me, I'm afraid. Not much I can do about it as long as there's rude people on the planet I will continue to champion courtesy.

You will NEVER change other people, you can only change yourself and how you react to those people.

Unfortunately. For the record though, I don't speed, although everyone on here assumes I do. I just get pissed at slower drivers who assume that nobody else has anything important they need to do.

Peace out

You too.

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by PollyGlott

The OP is not going to get much sympathy from ANYONE.

It really depends WHERE he was doing 86, imo. there are some stretches of desolate highway where it might seem OK. If it's a typical clogged LA freeway, then probably not.

[djxpress]

Originally Posted by Bandon

You will NEVER change other people, you can only change yourself and how you react to those people.

I have to disagree with this point. Yes, the quote above is an oft ranted cliche. But there have been a few times that I was able to change other people.

Kind of how you're taught in dog obedience school or on Dog Whisperer. It's said that you should not reward bad behavior, but ignore it. By changing the way you react, in effect, you are changing the dog's behavior.

It works with people, too. How do you think all of the drug interventions that succeed work? The addict changes his behavior, but only with the support and change in the behavior of those around him.

[angrygreenfraggle]

Polly Glott............Oh wow that was the point??????? Yeah I get that but I didn't know I was going to be screwed up my butt.