Noise within 1 mile radius of Ramona, Ca Airport???

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by Timmyy

My folks live in Ramona facing the valley where the airport is. The plane noise is not bad with the exception if there is a fire in the area and the bombers take off.

Thanks for the information.

I do not think that Ramona will be a great big hub for anything...not too worried about expansion.

Any idea what those mysterious buildings house on the airport grounds...hangars....maintainence shed???

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by futbol

They have several small hangars, but I think those are mostly for private rental.

If they have shippers or any kind of meaningful cargo, it is not noticeable, at least to me.

Give them a call: (760) 788-3366.

Also, their web site seems to indicate that they are not open at night.



BTW, the picture that I posted yesterday is from Highland Valley Rd., about a mile from the air strip.

Kool, thanks again, thanks for the number...great pic!

[tonyinsd]

Here is the listing for the airport from AirNav.

AirNav: KRNM - Ramona Airport

If you're worried about noise, here is something relevant

VOLUNTARY JET CURFEW 2200-0700. NOISE ABATEMENT: TKOF CLIMB ON RY HDG UNTIL 1900 FT MSL.

So that means while there's no rule against a jet aircraft taking off between 10PM and 7AM, they frown upon it. Also, you've got to fly straight out until you get to 1900 feet, by which time they figure there will be enough distance so you won't make too much noise.

The runway is long enough for business jets to get in and out of there but it's not large enough for large passenger jets to do it. It gets hot there in the summer, and that means an aircraft is going to need more runway to get off the ground.

Here are the aircraft operations.

Aircraft operations: avg 290/day
72% local general aviation
27% transient general aviation
<1% military
<1% air taxi
for 12-month period ending 31 December 2011

So you've got about 290 takeoffs or landings per day. Much of that, as you can see, is for local general aviation. That's guys taking flying lessons or taking their aircraft up for fun. Then you've got 27 percent for transient general aviation. This is where you will find either guys doing cross countries for training purposes or business jets flying in and out.

If I were to guess, I'd say about 90 percent of the aircraft operations will be single engine prop planes. These make the least amount of noise -- it's like a lawnmower in your neighbor's yard. And the good thing is that you get very little operations involving military aircraft. Those are the noisiest. Nowadays, commercial jets use high bypass engines, which are quieter and more efficient but they also take time to spool up and generate thrust.

Military aircraft need to be able to give you all their power just like that and they need higher thrust to weight ratios. Fuel economy is not as much of a concern, so they go with low bypass engines. These are also a hell of a lot noisier.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

The same traffic as the one here in Clairemont and it is not bad at all. You do hear the occasional small jet.

[cruitr]

Four dead in head-on crash near Ramona:
Four dead in head-on crash near Ramona | UTSanDiego.com

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by cruitr

Four dead in head-on crash near Ramona:
Four dead in head-on crash near Ramona | UTSanDiego.com

Had to be someone trying to pass another car. People haul a$$ on that road.

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by tonyinsd

Here is the listing for the airport from AirNav.

AirNav: KRNM - Ramona Airport

If you're worried about noise, here is something relevant

VOLUNTARY JET CURFEW 2200-0700. NOISE ABATEMENT: TKOF CLIMB ON RY HDG UNTIL 1900 FT MSL.

So that means while there's no rule against a jet aircraft taking off between 10PM and 7AM, they frown upon it. Also, you've got to fly straight out until you get to 1900 feet, by which time they figure there will be enough distance so you won't make too much noise.

The runway is long enough for business jets to get in and out of there but it's not large enough for large passenger jets to do it. It gets hot there in the summer, and that means an aircraft is going to need more runway to get off the ground.

Here are the aircraft operations.

Aircraft operations: avg 290/day
72% local general aviation
27% transient general aviation
<1% military
<1% air taxi
for 12-month period ending 31 December 2011

So you've got about 290 takeoffs or landings per day. Much of that, as you can see, is for local general aviation. That's guys taking flying lessons or taking their aircraft up for fun. Then you've got 27 percent for transient general aviation. This is where you will find either guys doing cross countries for training purposes or business jets flying in and out.

If I were to guess, I'd say about 90 percent of the aircraft operations will be single engine prop planes. These make the least amount of noise -- it's like a lawnmower in your neighbor's yard. And the good thing is that you get very little operations involving military aircraft. Those are the noisiest. Nowadays, commercial jets use high bypass engines, which are quieter and more efficient but they also take time to spool up and generate thrust.

Military aircraft need to be able to give you all their power just like that and they need higher thrust to weight ratios. Fuel economy is not as much of a concern, so they go with low bypass engines. These are also a hell of a lot noisier.

Thanks a LOT tonyinsd, great information and link..........very helpful.

I guess you would be doing pretty good if you do not line up with an area under the takeoff path. I wonder if that 1900 feet ascent before banking is a rule, regulation, law or just a recommendation??

[tonyinsd]

Originally Posted by tickyul

Thanks a LOT tonyinsd, great information and link..........very helpful.

I guess you would be doing pretty good if you do not line up with an area under the takeoff path. I wonder if that 1900 feet ascent before banking is a rule, regulation, law or just a recommendation??

It's only a recommendation. However, pilots generally follow the noise abatement procedures. You are trained from the get go to treat the neighbors with respect. You don't want to be the pilot who causes the airport operator to get noise complaints.

Yes, the airport was there when you moved in, and yes, you should expect aircraft noise. That doesn't mean a pilot has to be a jerk about it.

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by tonyinsd

It's only a recommendation. However, pilots generally follow the noise abatement procedures. You are trained from the get go to treat the neighbors with respect. You don't want to be the pilot who causes the airport operator to get noise complaints.

Yes, the airport was there when you moved in, and yes, you should expect aircraft noise. That doesn't mean a pilot has to be a jerk about it.

Thanks Again tonyinsd, great information.