11-27-2012, 12:01 PM
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How did you line up your job before you moved without a local address? Was it a company transfer or did you just get lucky and land an interview?
It seems most people offer those who want to move to San Diego some simple, but not so easy advice: Line up a job first.
To me, it seems most people could unsuccessfully spend the rest of their lives trying to line up a job in San Diego before moving there, yet it seems that plenty of people have managed to do so.
So please, tell us your story on how you were able to do this?
As someone planning on moving to San Diego in less than a year, I'm interested in hearing your stories.
11-27-2012, 02:10 PM
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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I can't answer the part about finding a job as I already own my own company so I didn't need to line up a job. However, I've met several people that moved here from other areas.
Most of them had something lined up before they came out here via getting transferred from their company which had offices/business here or they were in a C-Suite position (CEO/CFO/COO) type and got recruited.
A few others that didn't have jobs lined up moved out here where at least their spouse/significant other had a job and that gave them some time to find a job. And in at least a few that I met, they decided to take a job that they were way overqualified for but wanted to get employed so they took it anyway.
There were only a VERY small handful of people that I've met since moving here that didn't have a job lined up. They used a local address of either a friend/family for the address and got a local phone number via Google Voice so they had a San Diego phone number.
It seems like it's essential to do this because local companies get so many resumes from out State that they really don't take seriously anyone that isn't already here. There might be some exceptions to the rule (especially at the C Suite position) but most of the companies here want you to already be in San Diego.
I know for some people it will probably be impossible to line up a job before they move out here. In that case, my only advice would be to have plenty of savings built up.
11-27-2012, 03:35 PM
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Company transfer. I'm in a specialized field in tech. There was request for someone who held certain unique skills so I went after it after going from the DC area to Los Angeles (2 yrs) then to San Diego(1.5). Loved both, enjoyed everything SoCal offered and had no regrets.
However, I was working long hours in both cities(60-70hrs/wk) so the work/life balance for me was going down the drain and I didn't like the management in the SD job. So eventually I moved back to the DC area after taking a more stable and less hectic position (still not relaxing but tech isn't really an easy career) and haven't left since. I don't have any plans on going back to SoCal except for visits.
11-27-2012, 05:35 PM
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In an ideal world, lining up the job before moving is the smartest thing to do. Unfortunately, tough times require risk taking so it really depends on how much of a risk you are willing to take. It also depends upon your current employment status. Obviously, if you have a job, you shouldn't move out here without lining up a new job. But, if you are currently unemployed and can afford to take a risk, it might be a risk worth taking. Your job search and opportunities for success depend upon your skills and how you fit in the SD market.
The biggest challenge is housing, especially if you are a renter. Most rentals require some proof of income or employment. It will be a significant challenge if you have kids or pets. Extended stay hotels are a great option and comparable to rentals in the SD area.
My advice: secure housing before moving to SD and starting your job hunt.
11-27-2012, 06:35 PM
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The question people who are willing to make the move without a job is; Why San Diego?
11-27-2012, 06:59 PM
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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The question people who are willing to make the move without a job is; Why San Diego?
I think for many people it just comes down to them kind of falling in love with the city. Some probably came out for vacation and just totally fell in love with the area. Also, it's not difficult to really appreciate the great weather as much of the country either has brutally cold winters or hot summers.
Personally, I think San Diego is one of the most beautiful cities in America. Great beaches, nice mountain setting as well. Many cities really are blah or down right ugly.
I've seen the same type of thing with other cities in the world that I've traveled to. People just fall in love with the city. However, it's one thing to be out on vacation and one thing to realistically deal with the economy, etc. here.
I don't fault people for wanting to live here at all. I just constantly stress that people need to understand the dynamics of the job market and economy here. Not to mention the "vibe". Some people hear that San Diego is one of the largest cities in America and just totally underestimate the small town vibe of the city.
Many people mistakenly think because there are millions of people living in San Diego and it's one of the largest Metropolitan areas in the USA there are tons of jobs. Unless you're in one of the specialized fields here the chances of landing a very high paying job are few and far between here. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that. But you have to understand that going into it.
I've been coming to San Diego on vacations since I was a kid but didn't really truly understand what a different vibe this city has until I permanently moved here. Also, for as big of a population as the San Diego metropolitan area is, you can find it a "small world". I can't tell you how many times I've ran into a friend of a friend type situation where as many as 8 or 9 people I met were connected by a "1 degree of separation type thing". Especially here in North County.
11-27-2012, 07:09 PM
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I didn't have a thing lined up and it was my gf (now wife) that got the job offer from someone she worked with already on the east coast. I just finished school for business and needed a break so helped her move out. Applied for finance, chamber jobs etc. Fail.Tried to volunteer as an intern at the chamber of sd, they were not interested. This is coming from someone that studied/lived abroad and had legit international working experience. I noticed really fast my credentials meant **** for the local market.
Had been to SD before and while it wasn't like twisting my arm to come, it certainly wasn't s place I 'had to' move to either. We came out to scout apartments for a week and prepaid 6 months in advance for a place near her office, flew back amend drove cross country.
Worked with some of my 'back up' experience in hospitality for a couple of years in SD to get some local experience which is miles different from what I do now in tech. Never in a million years did I think I would help start a tech company and sell it to a company on the NYSE ( meaning this wasn't a plan, two years prior)
In other words, there was no grande plan. Sometimes oppts come that have nothing to do with jobs or a dream to live somewhere. About the only thing I had was a good attitude, sizable savings and keeping an open mind when meeting people. Last but not least, luck. I believe if you do the right things, oppts can come your way.
You never know who you might run into, but you gotta be here to play and this applies to anywhere.
SD is our home, we like it, but is definitely not the end all be all. In my experience, No place is. Every city I have ever been to has pros/cons just like SD does. We don't have an itch to move any time soon.
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11-28-2012, 09:12 AM
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The question people who are willing to make the move without a job is; Why San Diego?
Just curious if you grew up and lived in SD your whole life?
So from what I'm reading in this thread, most people got a company transfer (or their SO did) and moved out here. I haven't heard of anyone applying for a job out of state and getting an interview lined up yet
11-28-2012, 09:32 AM
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I haven't heard of anyone applying for a job out of state and getting an interview lined up yet
Local employers don't need to look out of the area for employees. Unless you have some very unique skill, San Diego employers have an abundance of willing and able talented people living right here in San Diego to choose from.
11-28-2012, 09:36 AM
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So from what I'm reading in this thread, most people got a company transfer (or their SO did) and moved out here. I haven't heard of anyone applying for a job out of state and getting an interview lined up yet
I'm sure it might happen but I do think it's few and far between. I have an executive recruiter friend here in San Diego and she told me that most companies right away toss out or set aside out of state applications. She said they have so many qualified (or over qualified) locals in any given search that they don't need to consider out of state applicants.
I'm sure this won't apply to some high demand fields here. But for the vast majority of the jobs out there in San Diego it sounds like they are just getting thousands upon thousands of resumes and have their pick to choose from. It's much easier for them to pick someone that is already living here and established here.
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Local employers don't need to look out of the area for employees. Unless you have some very unique skill, San Diego employers have an abundance of willing and able talented people living right here in San Diego to choose from.
EXACTLY. I have seen some C-suite positions where it was a "national search" and they were entertaining strong candidates from across the USA. But in the end they still typically hire a local that has ties to the local community and a built in local "network". That seems to be big here.
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People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)