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RD5050: I work from "home" with a laptop, and noise doesn't bother me (earplugs if they do). The first thing I did was look at rooms for rent. That's an option in the future once I know which neighborhoods to avoid, and maybe meet some people so that I at least halfway know the person I'm sharing with.
Bathroom in the middle of the night? 24 hour walmart or c-store. I don't care if I have to buy a soda to use the loo. (I just won't drink it til the next day, lol.)
Eurofresh: that's just it, I don't HAVE to do it - I'm choosing to do it. I'm not going to be flat broke, unemployed, desperate, whatever. I'm *choosing* to sleep in the car so that I can spend my money on fun stuff. And, again, it's not going to be for forever - just until it gets "cold" again. By then I will definitely have a roof over my head! But I would like to point out that it was 36 degrees last night where I live (in the mountains) and I didn't turn the heat on. I'm honestly not worried about SD being too cold for me
But the novelty of a tramp's life will have surely worn off by then and I'm sure I'll be missing life's little conveniences, like toilets and a hot shower just down the hall, etc...so I'll find something more permanent by then.
beera: I don't plan on parking in risky areas - that's the point of this thread - so that I can know what to watch out for and avoid. I will never stay in the same place twice in a row. I will strive to be considered a tourist, not a "transient". There are 2 casinos that allow free parking in their (guarded) lots. There over a dozen locations from 20 minutes to an hour away on BLM land, and places like Cleveland National Forest and other places where I can car-camp or pitch a tent for as little as $5/night.
This thread has been very helpful. I originally was thinking I would have to stay in SD every night but now I realize I can just drive in on the 2 or 3 days a week that I have to be there. I can stay in a casino lot, a hostel, or a cheap motel, and then the rest of the week I'll stay in a state park or national forest.
Ceece: I use to be a long-distance truckdriver. Sometimes I had to "go" and it could be an hour to the next truckstop or rest area. If I can wait an hour then I guess I can wait 5-10 minutes to find a 24hr c-store/diner/walmart/...
moved: Haha, there's always adult diapers, lol! Remember that female astronaut that supposedly wore adult diapers all the way from texas to Florida to accuse her boyfriend of cheating on her? I don't know if that part was true but you reminded me of it
Bakeneko: On the side of the street is the last place I'd want to be anyway. I'm trying to identify specific locations that don't scream "transient" or "homeless".
oddstray: Amen to everything you said, and thx for the support. This is going to be such a challenge (in a good way!). If I thought it was going to be easy I wouldn't even want to do it. I'm moving out of my comfort zone, ya know?
1AngryTaxPayer: Yeah, I wondered about the nighttime temps in the desert. I do have a smallish inverter from my trucking days that can be installed in my car and I'll use an electric blanket (or 3!) if it gets real cold (and a cap, and 2 pairs of thick socks and "silks" - from my Appalachian Trail days - under my long-johns, lol). I know how to stay warm!
When I moved into this house it was a wreck and I lived in it while it was being renovated. The first winter I didn't have power, running water, heat, etc. Had to pour water into the toilets to flush them, kept my groceries in a cooler, lived by the natural rhythms of nature (went to bed when it got dark, got up when it was light, who needed lights?
My point is, I'm not a pampered kinda girl - I didn't consider it a hardship to live like that, I considered it a cool story to tell afterwards.
and 1AngryTaxPayer? The weather is the one thing I can't wait for. I could go to other locations that would pay much more with a lower COL, but I have lived in sticky hot humid weather for 41 years and sorry for the caps BUT I HATE IT!!! I would endure a lot for some nice DRY sunshiney days!
hitman619: I don't plan on staying in WM lots. If they're anything like around here, they run people off pretty quick. BUT, you know how people will park way out in the perimeter of the lot? They're begging to be run off. I was thinking if I was gonna sleep in a WM lot as a last resort, then I would park as close to the entrance as possible, get in the PASSENGER side and then I would (hopefully) look like I was just waiting for someone else who was shopping in the store.
Haha, a sugar daddy, now there's a thought, lol...
Look guys, some of y'all worry too much. I'm not going to go into this completely blind. I am the ultimate planner, lol. I always have a plan A, B, C, and D, lol. If 100,000 homeless (or however many it is, I forget the number) with no resources, no car, some of them with kids, or addiction problems, etc, can survive there, then I guess I'll be ok
All I really hoped out of this thread was some suggestions for the bad areas to avoid, so I wouldn't have to find out the hard way. I appreciate the knowledge I have gained from y'all and the advice given.
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11-28-2013, 04:00 PM
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I just don't get it. You ask why should you downgrade to an apt. or room, when you have a house? Sleeping in your car isn't a downgrade?? You say you dress business like, so no one would suspect you are homeless...yet you say all you need to work is a Internet connection.
Yeah, I can see how it's confusing. My job is basically a few assignments a week where I go to retail locations and do my thing, and then turn in the results into my company's website. So I dress professionally for that. So there's no one location where I have to show up on a regular basis and see co-workers or anything. I'm an independent contractor. The businesses don't even know I'm coming. I completely set my own hours - as long as I meet my deadlines, my boss doesn't care how I get it done.
And yes, sleeping in my car (or tent) IS a downgrade from my house...BUT... I'm not having to pay out the wazoo for the privilege of living with people who are rude, dirty, noisy, etc...KWIM?
11-28-2013, 04:36 PM
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1. Where do you work online? At a coffee shop or something?
2. You remind me another poster here Carlos.
3. You also remind me of the old bit with Chris Farley living in the RV by the (SD) river (in MV).
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11-28-2013, 04:39 PM
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Such an unstable lifestyle sounds anything but enjoyable, basically living in the shadows...
11-28-2013, 04:54 PM
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Why not just sell the car, buy a small RV and use that until you find something more permanent? There are people living in RV's ALL OVER San Diego. You can probably park on just about any side street for the night and be ok - I used to see them all over the side streets in Chula Vista. You can drive it anywhere you need to go, and it would also solve most of the issues that have been addressed in this thread also - cooking, sleeping comfort, restroom, etc. If you were to go that way, I'd say go for it.
11-28-2013, 05:52 PM
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slo1318: You say tomato, I say tomahto.
Matt518: I know nothing about RVs and I happen to like my car very much. Also, I have seen on more than one website recently that SD is cracking down on RVs parked on the street.
Also, about cooking, I don't really cook. I eat mostly a raw food diet. I used to be a junk food junkie but I've found that I just feel so much better when I cut out the processed stuff. So, lots of fruit, veggies, nuts, etc...
The only thing that I see being a PITA is needing a bathroom is the middle of the night and that's not going to be an every night thing. I'm only going to be in my car in SD 1 or 2 nights a week and I'll just try not to drink too much before bed, lol.
11-28-2013, 06:32 PM
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SD is cracking down on larger RVs. Van-type vehicles, not so much.
11-28-2013, 06:57 PM
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slo1318: You say tomato, I say tomahto.
Matt518: I know nothing about RVs and I happen to like my car very much. Also, I have seen on more than one website recently that SD is cracking down on RVs parked on the street.
Also, about cooking, I don't really cook. I eat mostly a raw food diet. I used to be a junk food junkie but I've found that I just feel so much better when I cut out the processed stuff. So, lots of fruit, veggies, nuts, etc...
The only thing that I see being a PITA is needing a bathroom is the middle of the night and that's not going to be an every night thing. I'm only going to be in my car in SD 1 or 2 nights a week and I'll just try not to drink too much before bed, lol.
You're obviously a free thinker citizen of the world type, but you must admit "tomahto" is spelled incorrectly..
11-28-2013, 06:57 PM
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The only thing that I see being a PITA is needing a bathroom is the middle of the night and that's not going to be an every night thing. I'm only going to be in my car in SD 1 or 2 nights a week and I'll just try not to drink too much before bed, lol.
Where are you staying the other 5-6 nights per week?
Be glad you're not a middle-aged to elderly man needing to regularly urinate in middle of night; though if you were, you could just use a bottle, being careful not to spill.
11-28-2013, 07:00 PM
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peasantgirl: go for it. You've got a lot of good advice in this thread, and forget the naysayers.
I have lived like that a few times in my life and now a days when I take a road trip live like it again.
I second the opinion about public lands, even NF lands near Alpine might be good. Takes care of the problem of having to tinkle in the middle. I also second the opinion not to stay in one place twice.
Enjoy your adventure!
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Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)