05-04-2014, 02:51 AM
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I echo Beckaboo... In less than 2 years My best friend has visited 3 times, my In-laws stayed once and are already planning on coming for trip #2 in a few months, my sister-in-law once and my brother-in-law once as well. Most people will jump at the chance to come visit and in some ways it's more fun visiting like that.
We felt the same way as you, not wanting to regret not taking a chance on something and we have ended up really liking it. My parents seemed pretty sad to see us move though. We are thinking about selling our home in Colorado that we've been renting out, when my mom heard that she said to me "you're never moving back here are you"?! We love our families but honestly we were ready for some space. We still go home for the holidays and they visit us and so far we're really enjoying being out here! My only caveat would be that yes, you say that you are well aware of the housing/cost of living but I would honestly say you will still be surprised after you move here at how pricey homes are and for what you get. Unless you can afford that bright orange Lamborghini I saw at the grocery store today...
05-04-2014, 12:55 PM
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Simple solution. Bring 'em out here. They'll be glad to have come out.
That I have tried, if they do maybe they'll catch the bug too, then I won't be the only "crazy" one..
05-04-2014, 01:08 PM
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This is true, very true. But in some situations, such was mine, it is better to get away from family, friends and old acquaintances who may be holding you back from reaching your full potential.
Come out here for a while OP, rent, and see if its for you. Your handle indicates you are an RN, you could surely land a job out here easily.
Yes actually my wife and I are both RNs, I recently applied for and received a CA nursing license (little steps at a time) During spring break we actually rented a house in a residential area, and though we did some touristy things(Legoland,etc) the things my wife and I enjoyed the most was just enjoying the weather and being outside. The kids love the tidepools at Point Loma..I'm aware of the real estate prices (at least 2 maybe 3x what we pay here for the same house
: but I think its doable for us. The areas I actually liked were inland where its warmer and more affordable (San Marcos..)
05-04-2014, 01:08 PM
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Some see moving away as a positive, others as a negative. YMMV. Clearly only you know how your family impacts your life and only one way to find out.
But it is 2014. Buying a plane ticket is not difficult unless you have family from the Shire or member(s) with disability which may prevent that kind of mobilization.
I have family here that moved out here to be closer. But far enough way in a drive so as not interfere with our lives. The in laws will be staying longer now that we are building a granny flat. But they visit at least 3 times a year from the east coast.
The real question is this: How much do you really see your family if you were working 5 days a week anyway with your own life now?
My wife sees it all the time when she sees her friends back east. Its not like all these friends see their family every day. Its more of the feeling and presence of family being nearby rather than actually seeing them all the time methinks.
As far as the distance. The old saying that it makes the heart grow fonder is true for my wife and I and our families. The first few years her family thought moving to SD was just a short term thing and we always got the 'when are you coming back home?'
After so many years, establishing a career, buying a home etc. That all changed to 'we see why you are happy, we wish you were closer, but you guys are happy.' Totally different tone.
On the other hand. I have a very good friend in Florida originally from Michigan and husband from Ohio. They are looking forward to the day when he is done getting is masters, selling the house and moving back up there to be closer to family (at all levels.) They feel its important for their baby daughter to get to know the family on a more regular basis.
05-04-2014, 02:04 PM
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Also, keep in mind that although real estate is high in SD, other aspects of COL are not necessarily higher than where you are now. Food=year round, high quality produce grown nearby is pretty reasonable in SD. Gas prices can be higher, but again, depends on where you're coming from. Not needing heat OR A/C nearly year round lowers utility costs. Less wear and tear on vehicles, no need to weatherize them. No need for 2 or 3 clothing wardrobes [I find this cheaper especially as far as kids go since they grow so quickly]. Sales tax in SD is 9%; that's on par with many metro areas, though surely can be considered high-but depends on what one is used to. Property taxes are not the highest in the country, by far. I'm not saying it's cheap, but I am saying that, aside from astronomical real estate costs, SD can be done on par or for less with many other parts of the country-especially major metros and many smaller states [such as VT, ME, CT, etc]. Cost of living comparison calculator (plug in two cities, income and go!)
http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/...alculator.aspx
Also, though you will need to visit family or they come to you, another great aspect of living in SD: Driving proximity to other great places to visit. SD is 3 hours from Big Bear for skiing/hiking, 4 hours from santa barbara, 2 hours from LA, 6 hours to phoenix or northern AZ such as sedona or flagstaff, a little further to Tucson/Saguaro National Park, 5 hours to Sequioa National Park, 3+ hours Joshua Tree, less than 5 hours to Vegas, 7 hours to Zion NP, 8 hours to San Francisco [or an hour flight], 9 hours to Sonoma or Napa and on and on and on....
I think SD is a great place to raise kids [hence why I am here]. We do not own a home and salary is not particularly high; we live in Carmel Valley and yet we get by. It doesn't feel like San Francisco or Manhattan, that's for sure. I'm originally from the NE and I never fully understand the 'CA is so expensive' thing. It's pricey, and some areas more so than others, but there are numerous other locales that are just as high or higher. I think the trade off is worth it, regardless, though.
Sounds like you have all but decided and remember that you can always move back. A few years in SD is not a bad option, and neither is a lifetime. (: My advice is not to try to convince others to move out. That takes a lot of effort and keeps you stuck in their reality and/or the past. Make your move clean and then let people visit. Anyone interested will then consider moving out. Otherwise, you don't want to feel responsible for the lives of others, once they are out here anyway. Do it for yourself and your immediate family. San Marcos has great schools and is a good location. Awesome that you are both RN's.
Southwest airlines often has great deals. And there are several so cal airport options, too.
Good luck!
05-05-2014, 01:55 AM
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Family > any place in my opinion (yes, even San Diego).
You obviously haven't met my family.
05-05-2014, 02:18 AM
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Some see moving away as a positive, others as a negative. YMMV. Clearly only you know how your family impacts your life and only one way to find out.
But it is 2014. Buying a plane ticket is not difficult unless you have family from the Shire or member(s) with disability which may prevent that kind of mobilization.
I have family here that moved out here to be closer. But far enough way in a drive so as not interfere with our lives. The in laws will be staying longer now that we are building a granny flat. But they visit at least 3 times a year from the east coast.
The real question is this: How much do you really see your family if you were working 5 days a week anyway with your own life now?
My wife sees it all the time when she sees her friends back east. Its not like all these friends see their family every day. Its more of the feeling and presence of family being nearby rather than actually seeing them all the time methinks.
As far as the distance. The old saying that it makes the heart grow fonder is true for my wife and I and our families. The first few years her family thought moving to SD was just a short term thing and we always got the 'when are you coming back home?'
After so many years, establishing a career, buying a home etc. That all changed to 'we see why you are happy, we wish you were closer, but you guys are happy.' Totally different tone.
On the other hand. I have a very good friend in Florida originally from Michigan and husband from Ohio. They are looking forward to the day when he is done getting is masters, selling the house and moving back up there to be closer to family (at all levels.) They feel its important for their baby daughter to get to know the family on a more regular basis.
I'm going through this right now with my wife. We are moving from the northeast (NY/NJ) to San Diego within a few months. The only major sticking point was her family, and how living in San Diego will be "so far away." Yes, she is much closer with her mother and her sisters than I am with my own parents and brother. However, we currently live in central New Jersey, which is easily two hours away from her sisters and mother on Long Island. How often do you think her family comes to visit us in New Jersey? The answer is "almost never." My wife, on the other hand, goes to Long Island to see them roughly every six weeks.
Our son is considerably younger than his cousins in NY. Couple the age difference with being two hours away, and he's just not ever going to be close to them like some cousins are. Sure, it's great to spend time together with family, regardless of the children's age. But to pass on an opportunity to create a better life for your own
immediate family, simply because you want to be within a few hours drive of extended family, just doesn't make sense. Same goes with my son's relationship with my parents. We live ten minutes away and they currently see him every week. As much as I appreciate that my parents love my son, and he loves spending time with them, it's not enough of a reason to continue living in a place where we can't enjoy life to it's fullest.
05-05-2014, 09:08 AM
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You obviously haven't met my family.
Are we related? Distance works best for my family, too.
05-05-2014, 09:16 AM
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This is a really subjective question. My immediate family lived in San Diego so moving here was easy for me. I still miss my friends back east but they will be visiting soon. My wife moved away from all of her family back east so the first month or two was pretty hard for her
05-05-2014, 12:03 PM
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You obviously haven't met my family.
LOL
me too -- I miss the place I'm from -- that does not mean is was healthy for me to be in close proximity to them and a big factor for me in being free to roam the country...
Most healthy adults should be able to put some space between themselves and family unless it really is against their culture to do so, it could be very hard (some cultures live in the same house into adulthood, etc.)
It is good for many people to move away from family at some point even if it is not permanent.
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Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)