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Old 03-06-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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I also thought the weather had something to do with it. It seems like the most dangerous cities in the United States have cold climates, like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc.; while the safest cities are in warm, sunny climates such as San Diego, Los Angeles, and Miami. But if that were the case then Canadian cities wouldn't be safe.
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Old 03-06-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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I also thought the weather had something to do with it. It seems like the most dangerous cities in the United States have cold climates, like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc.; while the safest cities are in warm, sunny climates such as San Diego, Los Angeles, and Miami. But if that were the case then Canadian cities wouldn't be safe.
LA & Miami were two of the worst cities in the world not that long ago. Both have improved over the years, but who knows as LA has been getting a bit worse the past year or two.
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Old 03-06-2016, 12:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego A.K.A "D.A.Y.G.O City"
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Going to be non PC here and tell it like it is so here it goes.

Less Black and Hispanic people compared to the biggest Metros in the nation.

It is less Urban and has less Urban decay. As we all know, most violent crimes happen in urban areas.

San Diego being more of a suburb on a whole caters to families and these people have no time to rob, car jack, or shoot somebody. On a sad note, Murder suicide rates shot up here, and each case has it's own reason why. But it's most likely financial and girlfriend/boyfriend jealousy that sparks the killings.

San Diego is expensive to live in, and keeps the criminals and bad people from moving here.

The culture in SD is heavily and overwhelming White, although Mexico is our neighbor to the South, you would think differently. Many other big cities in the U.S. that are more diverse like San Antonio and pretty much all of Texas cities have more crime. Now one reason for this is that Texas has a much lower cost of living, so it attracts people of all creeds unlike here where it keeps the problems ones out, and holds onto the select few. Taco Shops on every corner doesn't make San Diego more "Mexican" or "Latin" in the way it feels either. Old Town is a perfect example where Mexican people "Don't go" to shop, eat and party. It's a tourist trap for White out towners.

We are still an overall Conservative City and County, especially when you look at who is running things in this town and how the local media operates on its Right Wing policies. Big Liberal cities tend to have high crime rates, and San Diego is not one of them.

Gentrification will eventually move out all the poor Blacks and Hispanics in the inner city of SD, and these people will probably have nowhere else to go besides out of the state because there won't be anymore affordable pockets of left in SD for them to go to. So crime will drop even more.

The days of Gangster culture that was so prevalent in the 90's is long gone, so the attraction for kids to become a gangbanger has been almost halted. Even though SD has many gangs, they're not doing drive-by's, or killing each other on a daily basis like they did 20 years ago.

Like others said, the police here are always in the community, almost like a family checking up on you in a weird sorta way.

SD is also very laid back, and this in itself might have something to do with the lower crime rates.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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Less Black and Hispanic people compared to the biggest Metros in the nation.

The culture in SD is heavily and overwhelming White, although Mexico is our neighbor to the South, you would think differently. Many other big cities in the U.S. that are more diverse like San Antonio and pretty much all of Texas cities have more crime.
Although San Antonio is more Hispanic than San Diego, it is not more diverse than San Diego. I am from there and I will say it is not even close.

Also, El Paso is overwhelmingly a Mexican American city and it has been voted safest large city in the US for a few years.
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Old 03-06-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Going to be non PC here and tell it like it is so here it goes.
Ok Donald. We're all ears.
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Less Black and Hispanic people compared to the biggest Metros in the nation.

It is less Urban and has less Urban decay. As we all know, most violent crimes happen in urban areas.

San Diego being more of a suburb on a whole caters to families and these people have no time to rob, car jack, or shoot somebody. On a sad note, Murder suicide rates shot up here, and each case has it's own reason why. But it's most likely financial and girlfriend/boyfriend jealousy that sparks the killings.

San Diego is expensive to live in, and keeps the criminals and bad people from moving here.

The culture in SD is heavily and overwhelming White, although Mexico is our neighbor to the South, you would think differently. Many other big cities in the U.S. that are more diverse like San Antonio and pretty much all of Texas cities have more crime. Now one reason for this is that Texas has a much lower cost of living, so it attracts people of all creeds unlike here where it keeps the problems ones out, and holds onto the select few. Taco Shops on every corner doesn't make San Diego more "Mexican" or "Latin" in the way it feels either. Old Town is a perfect example where Mexican people "Don't go" to shop, eat and party. It's a tourist trap for White out towners.

We are still an overall Conservative City and County, especially when you look at who is running things in this town and how the local media operates on its Right Wing policies. Big Liberal cities tend to have high crime rates, and San Diego is not one of them.

Gentrification will eventually move out all the poor Blacks and Hispanics in the inner city of SD, and these people will probably have nowhere else to go besides out of the state because there won't be anymore affordable pockets of left in SD for them to go to. So crime will drop even more.

The days of Gangster culture that was so prevalent in the 90's is long gone, so the attraction for kids to become a gangbanger has been almost halted. Even though SD has many gangs, they're not doing drive-by's, or killing each other on a daily basis like they did 20 years ago.

Like others said, the police here are always in the community, almost like a family checking up on you in a weird sorta way.

SD is also very laid back, and this in itself might have something to do with the lower crime rates.
Fine. Read through your declarations. Here's the thing, Donald. Very little you just wrote is "telling it like it is."

You can start with your claim that SD is a "pretty conservative city." It's not, actually. You can check the PEW Research chart linked here: Chart of the Week: The most liberal and conservative big cities | Pew Research Center

As for "less Black people and Hispanics" equating to lower crime, color and nationality have nothing to do with it. Socio-economic factors do. There is zero genetic factor (skin color) as proven previously in this thread and the Part 1 thread. Wealthier, more upscale Black community crime rates are as low as any white community rates.

Of course there is also the fun you are missing by not acknowledging the damage done by white collar crime, which of course is highly represented by upstanding members of nice, neat, clean, mostly white, affluent communities across the nation. The suffering, including sickness, and toxic pain from: pollution, extreme cultural orientation to pharmaceuticals, destructive dietary influences by big agriculture and food manufacturers / marketers, extreme and steadily growing pressures to increase worker productivity, and a host of other 'hidden' legal violence - is far greater than that from violent illegal crime.
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Old 03-06-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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Make no mistake there are some shady areas in San Diego county.

While it may be safer overall compared to Los Angeles county, there are some scary gang infested locations I wouldn't want to drive through.
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Old 03-06-2016, 03:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I've heard that El Paso is pretty safe. It's diverse, and not too affluent, but it's armed to the teeth.
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Old 03-06-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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Going to be non PC here and tell it like it is so here it goes.

Less Black and Hispanic people compared to the biggest Metros in the nation.

It is less Urban and has less Urban decay. As we all know, most violent crimes happen in urban areas.

San Diego being more of a suburb on a whole caters to families and these people have no time to rob, car jack, or shoot somebody. On a sad note, Murder suicide rates shot up here, and each case has it's own reason why. But it's most likely financial and girlfriend/boyfriend jealousy that sparks the killings.

San Diego is expensive to live in, and keeps the criminals and bad people from moving here.

The culture in SD is heavily and overwhelming White, although Mexico is our neighbor to the South, you would think differently. Many other big cities in the U.S. that are more diverse like San Antonio and pretty much all of Texas cities have more crime. Now one reason for this is that Texas has a much lower cost of living, so it attracts people of all creeds unlike here where it keeps the problems ones out, and holds onto the select few. Taco Shops on every corner doesn't make San Diego more "Mexican" or "Latin" in the way it feels either. Old Town is a perfect example where Mexican people "Don't go" to shop, eat and party. It's a tourist trap for White out towners.

We are still an overall Conservative City and County, especially when you look at who is running things in this town and how the local media operates on its Right Wing policies. Big Liberal cities tend to have high crime rates, and San Diego is not one of them.

Gentrification will eventually move out all the poor Blacks and Hispanics in the inner city of SD, and these people will probably have nowhere else to go besides out of the state because there won't be anymore affordable pockets of left in SD for them to go to. So crime will drop even more.

The days of Gangster culture that was so prevalent in the 90's is long gone, so the attraction for kids to become a gangbanger has been almost halted. Even though SD has many gangs, they're not doing drive-by's, or killing each other on a daily basis like they did 20 years ago.

Like others said, the police here are always in the community, almost like a family checking up on you in a weird sorta way.

SD is also very laid back, and this in itself might have something to do with the lower crime rates.
I agree with every point you made here. It is a bit surprising that the hispanic population is low being so close to the border. It is very low in the city limits, but certain parts of the metro have larger hispanic populations, like Chula Vista.

Also as much as we are not supposed to bring up race, I have to state a fact that due to its low black population it does not have to worry about the "Ferguson Effect" that many cities are experiencing.

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Old 03-06-2016, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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I agree with every point you made here. It is a bit surprising that the hispanic population is low being so close to the border. It is very low in the city limits, but certain parts of the metro have larger hispanic populations, like Chula Vista.

[/b]Also as much as we are not supposed to bring up race, I have to state a fact that due to its low black population it does not have to worry about the "Ferguson Effect" that many cities are experiencing[/b].
Bingo.

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Old 03-06-2016, 04:27 PM
 
Location: New York City/San Diego, CA
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Going to be non PC here and tell it like it is so here it goes.

Less Black and Hispanic people compared to the biggest Metros in the nation.

It is less Urban and has less Urban decay. As we all know, most violent crimes happen in urban areas.

San Diego being more of a suburb on a whole caters to families and these people have no time to rob, car jack, or shoot somebody. On a sad note, Murder suicide rates shot up here, and each case has it's own reason why. But it's most likely financial and girlfriend/boyfriend jealousy that sparks the killings.

San Diego is expensive to live in, and keeps the criminals and bad people from moving here.

The culture in SD is heavily and overwhelming White, although Mexico is our neighbor to the South, you would think differently. Many other big cities in the U.S. that are more diverse like San Antonio and pretty much all of Texas cities have more crime. Now one reason for this is that Texas has a much lower cost of living, so it attracts people of all creeds unlike here where it keeps the problems ones out, and holds onto the select few. Taco Shops on every corner doesn't make San Diego more "Mexican" or "Latin" in the way it feels either. Old Town is a perfect example where Mexican people "Don't go" to shop, eat and party. It's a tourist trap for White out towners.

We are still an overall Conservative City and County, especially when you look at who is running things in this town and how the local media operates on its Right Wing policies. Big Liberal cities tend to have high crime rates, and San Diego is not one of them.

Gentrification will eventually move out all the poor Blacks and Hispanics in the inner city of SD, and these people will probably have nowhere else to go besides out of the state because there won't be anymore affordable pockets of left in SD for them to go to. So crime will drop even more.

The days of Gangster culture that was so prevalent in the 90's is long gone, so the attraction for kids to become a gangbanger has been almost halted. Even though SD has many gangs, they're not doing drive-by's, or killing each other on a daily basis like they did 20 years ago.

Like others said, the police here are always in the community, almost like a family checking up on you in a weird sorta way.

SD is also very laid back, and this in itself might have something to do with the lower crime rates.
Seriously, this post reads like it was from Trump's campaign i.e. it is just making stuff up.

So, Donald, let's look at FACTS available right here on this web site.

1). The city of San Diego has a higher percentage of hispanics (28%) than Chicago, Philadelphia, and many other cities with a MUCH higher crime rate.

2). Lakeside (majority white) has a MUCH higher crime rate than Chula Vista (majority hispanic).

3). NYC is the safest, least crime ridden city in the USA. It is a big liberal city.

4). As pointed out earlier, San Diego is NOT a conservative city. Both the city and county voted for Obama in both recent elections and it was a landslide within the city. A conservative city, would be a place like San Antonio which, as you stated, has a much higher crime rate. San Antonio does have a higher hispanic population than San Diego but about the same African American population, around 6%. But my point #1 already disproved your theory.

5). Look north my friend, unfortunately, gentrification has moved many black and hispanics out of the city of San Francisco, and yet the crime rates are significantly higher than San Diego.

In summary, Donald, you are completely making stuff up, and your entire post and campaign is utter BS.
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