Possible move from Bay Area to San Diego. Would you do it? (San Jose: living, vs)

[pacific2]

The bottom line is that you should spend a few weeks travelling around both SD and OC. I could think of far worse things than getting a Goggle gig in Irvine and living in, perhaps, nearby Laguna Beach.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4quHcjgECk

[pacific2]

Dana Point is one of my favorite OC cities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-t6YIJm0C0

Newport Beach is close to Irvine (Google):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQrmNN13NJ4

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Pedro2000

I honestly don't get the hate for OC. Most of SD and OC are pretty much the same damn places if somebody just dumped you into the middle of some community. I mean if you were dropped in La Jolla vs Laguna Beach, the scenery might change, but half the people are exactly the same kinds of people and the shops are very similar. I would say Laguna beach has a few more things to see and do even. If you live in Poway or Rancho Bernardo, is that really much different than Ladera Ranch or Irvine?

If you don't live downtown SD or even visit downtown SD often, there really isn't a huge difference in many of these places. Traffic is worse in OC and many places are more money, but there are plenty of affordable places as well. Plus LA is closer and there are far more job opportunities in OC and even LA if you were willing, compared to SD.

SD is closer to TJ, but many people don't even go to TJ anymore, or they visit once every 5 years, so it's not even important. But to me, people in Del mar and La Jolla are very similar to those in Laguna Beach and Newport Beach. The boring suburbs of OC are no different than most of the boring suburbs of SD. People just don't like to call places like Encinitas or Carlsbad out near Walmart and Target or Jimbos suburbia.

Don't get me wrong as there are many differences between OC and SD, but when people who don't even live here and don't really know the area start claiming SD is the place for them and trashing OC as nothing but boring sleepy town and yet they want to live in places like Poway, it makes little sense.

While they can be pretty similar overall I definitely think there are enough differences that people could strongly prefer one over the other. To me OC has a slightly difference vibe and a larger percentage of people who kind of represent the negative SoCal stereotypes more so than SD. Also it doesn't feel like its own metro area as it's not, it's a suburban county while SD is a complete metro area with well defined core. That decentralized sprawly nature of OC can be a turn off to a lot of people.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by sav858

While they can be pretty similar overall I definitely think there are enough differences that people could strongly prefer one over the other. To me OC has a slightly difference vibe and a larger percentage of people who kind of represent the negative SoCal stereotypes more so than SD. Also it doesn't feel like its own metro area as it's not, it's a suburban county while SD is a complete metro area with well defined core. That decentralized sprawly nature of OC can be a turn off to a lot of people.

As much as OCers deny it OC is LA burbs.

Similar to how people up here who live in the South Bay try to act like they are not part of the mainstream Bay Area.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

As much as OCers deny it OC is LA burbs.

Similar to how people up here who live in the South Bay try to act like they are not part of the mainstream Bay Area.

"We're not LA" says someone wearing a Los Angeles Angels baseball cap....

[elchevere]

they really aren't--2 different mindsets and 2 different lifestyles.....that's why the terms "Orange Curtain" and "great white flight" were initially coined and/or applicable. OC is much closer mentally to SD than it is LA and, both, OC and SD share a dislike for LA. I state that as someone who lived in OC for 17 years. Then again, I suppose it also matters whether you are talking North OC v. South OC.

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

As much as OCers deny it OC is LA burbs.

Similar to how people up here who live in the South Bay try to act like they are not part of the mainstream Bay Area.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by elchevere

they really aren't--2 different mindsets and 2 different lifestyles.....that's why the terms "Orange Curtain" and "great white flight" were initially coined and/or applicable. OC is much closer mentally to SD than it is LA and, both, OC and SD share a dislike for LA. I state that as someone who lived in OC for 17 years. Then again, I suppose it also matters whether you are talking North OC v. South OC.

So basically the same differences between most large cities and their respective suburbs?

[elchevere]

not really, at least not from most of my experiences...I didn't notice a "we're not NYC" when I grew up on Long Island nor a dislike for going into the city--actually, most looked forward to going into the city....Marin County was too close to SF for there to be noticeable distinctions--while some preferred living in Marin I never heard animosity towards SF like I have heard from OC and SD towards LA....when I visit Chicago I never hear Naperville, Oak Brook, or Deerfield suburbs claiming "we're not Chicago"--similar to NY scenario described above....in NY the animosity was more upstate that did not like downstate (NY Metro area--not just the city, i.e. rural v. urban)....closest one to OC and SD v. LA would be in Florida where you have Broward and Palm Beach Counties claiming they're not Miami--then again, I always say there is Miami and then there is the rest of Florida. Maybe it's a warm weather thing

Originally Posted by sav858

So basically the same differences between most large cities and their respective suburbs?

[sdurbanite]

Originally Posted by elchevere

not really, at least not from most of my experiences...I didn't notice a "we're not NYC" when I grew up on Long Island nor a dislike for going into the city--actually, most looked forward to going into the city....Marin County was too close to SF for there to be noticeable distinctions--while some preferred living in Marin I never heard animosity towards SF like I have heard from OC and SD towards LA....when I visit Chicago I never hear Naperville, Oak Brook, or Deerfield suburbs claiming "we're not Chicago"--similar to NY scenario described above....in NY the animosity was more upstate that did not like downstate (NY Metro area--not just the city, i.e. rural v. urban)....closest one to OC and SD v. LA would be in Florida where you have Broward and Palm Beach Counties claiming they're not Miami--then again, I always say there is Miami and then there is the rest of Florida. Maybe it's a warm weather thing

What about the NY vs. Jersey thing that all of the late night talk show hosts bring up? There's also the East Bay and San Jose attitude towards SF. Wealthy Lake County vs. Chicago. A good friend of mine is from Baltimore and he hates DC. Ft. Lauderdale separates themselves from Miami. Minneapolis vs. St. Paul, Dallas vs. Ft. Worth. Not really a warm weather thing, after all.

[sdurbanite]

Originally Posted by pacific2

Dana Point is one of my favorite OC cities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-t6YIJm0C0

Newport Beach is close to Irvine (Google):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQrmNN13NJ4

What about the videos of Downtown Disney and Irvine Spectrum?