Schools in Aug/Sep (San Diego: college, prices, vs)

[NYSD1995]

Originally Posted by TacoSoup

I saw nothing on UCSD website, or the UC Berkeley site for that matter, to suggest international students pay more than out of state tuition besides a one time $100 visa fee? The article you linked showed the difference in England, Canada and Australia, but for America there was just some big ten schools that charge an extra $1000 fee. Maybe at private schools there’s a substantial difference, but I haven’t seen anything for the UC system?

It;s like 5x as expensive if you're out of state or international, out of staters wont pay and will go somewhere else, but international will.

[TacoSoup]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

It;s like 5x as expensive if you're out of state or international, out of staters wont pay and will go somewhere else, but international will.

I’m aware of out of state tuition, but the previous poster said international students pay more than out of state. Students pay out of state tuition all the time, don’t know why that would change?

[TristramShandy]

Originally Posted by TacoSoup

I’m aware of out of state tuition, but the previous poster said international students pay more than out of state. Students pay out of state tuition all the time, don’t know why that would change?

https://www.businessinsider.com/fore...olleges-2016-9

In 2015, the country's public universities gleaned more than $9 billion in tuition and fees from foreign students, according to SelfScore's analysis. That's about 28% of annual tuition revenue coming from foreign students, who make up an average of just 12% of the student population.

[TacoSoup]

Originally Posted by TristramShandy

https://www.businessinsider.com/fore...olleges-2016-9

This still doesn’t show that foreign students pay more than American out of state students at UCSD, much less a exorbitant amount more like you said? They did reference Arizona State in that article and out of state students pays $26,470, international students pay $28,270. I don’t see that as an substantial difference?

I’m not disputing the financial impact of foreign students, nor am I advocating not allowing them to attend. All I said is they don’t pay more than American students from 49 other states, and I’ve yet to see anything that says they pay substantially more?

[TristramShandy]

Originally Posted by TacoSoup

This still doesn’t show that foreign students pay more than American out of state students at UCSD, much less a exorbitant amount more like you said? They did reference Arizona State in that article and out of state students pays $26,470, international students pay $28,270. I don’t see that as an substantial difference?

I’m not disputing the financial impact of foreign students, nor am I advocating not allowing them to attend. All I said is they don’t pay more than American students from 49 other states, and I’ve yet to see anything that says they pay substantially more?

It depends on the state or university. I don't think you can just say "if we don't take international students, those seats will be taken by out-of-state students". Birth rates are dwindling in the United States; there is expected to be a severe drop in college attendance from American-born students quite soon.

https://hechingerreport.org/college-...the-year-2025/

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...207-story.html

Good news for kids in elementary school right now - - students should be able to get into more prestigious schools if foreign students stop coming. Unfortunately, many schools may not exist if they don't come.

[Axxlrod]

Originally Posted by TristramShandy

International students pay exorbitant prices in comparison to American students. University financing is based on those international students. Without them, American students are paying much higher tuitions. Most Americans would be all for exports of other American products; why does it change for education?

China is our enemy. I don't get why we would educate their students at our universities.

My opinion.

[Spartanacus]

Originally Posted by TristramShandy

They bring A LOT of money to universities. Over 20% of UCSD's student population is Chinese nationals; they would be crushed without that population.

And are you saying that homegrown American's money is no good? Hogwash. Maybe my white
American kids with slightly less than a 4.0 GPA's can actually get accepted into a school like UCLA if they wanted to go there.

[Spartanacus]

Originally Posted by Axxlrod

China is our enemy. I don't get why we would educate their students at our universities.

My opinion.

Agreed. I don't care if they're paying 1000x what American kids would pay. china needs to be punished big time...and forever. No business. No travel back and forth (including connecting flights) for anyone, including US citizens going over there for business or um...pleasure. Time to make lemonade out of these big stinking rotting lemons that china laid on us and the entire world. #madeinAMERICA

[bloom]

Originally Posted by Axxlrod

China is our enemy. I don't get why we would educate their students at our universities.

My opinion.

do you understand the strategy of winning the hearts and minds, Or you do not

[NYSD1995]

Originally Posted by TacoSoup

I’m aware of out of state tuition, but the previous poster said international students pay more than out of state. Students pay out of state tuition all the time, don’t know why that would change?

Yeah I don't think international students pay higher tuitions. I think in UC and CSU its just 2 rates, in-state vs. out of state. The point being though, I think is that the international students as a group pay far more into the system than US residents from out-of-state, and as a result essentially edge out the US students who may otherwise be eligible but cant afford the tuition.