10-07-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
iskray917
Umm? I think you are supposing wrong.
Aeromexico supposed that there would be San Diegans flying through Tijuana, which is why the airline started the shuttle service in the first place. I'll see if there is information about when it operates.
EDIT: AM offers bus shuttle services from San Ysidro in San Diego and from other cities: http://www.aeromexico.com/en_us/travel-information/ground-transportation/tijuana_california.aspx (broken link)
10-07-2009, 08:41 PM
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Vicman
Aeromexico supposed that there would be San Diegans flying through Tijuana, which is why the airline started the shuttle service in the first place. I'll see if there is information about when it operates.Aeromexico.com :: Travel Information :: Tijuana - Cds. de California (http://www.aeromexico.com/en_us/travel-information/ground-transportation/tijuana_california.aspx - broken link)
The reason they offer this service is so Mexican-Americans can fly non-stop into Mexico. Almost no one would go to Tijuana to fly to Asia, that is a ridiculous assumption. Again, your ignorance of the region, the attitude San Diegans have towards Tijuana, and your semi-antagonistic denial of the opinions of residents is leading me to believe you are not actually interested in this discussion at all.
10-07-2009, 08:46 PM
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Aeromexico clearly marketed its service to San Diegans. The San Diego newspapers had features about the flight.
Creating a connection | The San Diego Union-Tribune
The newspaper says clearly:
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Because the airline offers one of the few nonstop international flights from either Tijuana or the San Diego area, Aeromexico is hoping to attract passengers from both sides of the border, including those from as far away as Orange County. The airline offers complimentary shuttle service from San Diego.
Sassberto, the assumption is not at all ridiculous when the San Diego newspaper article discusses how Aeromexico planned to attract passengers from San Diego. If it was really that much of a stretch, Aeromexico wouldn't bother.
If it was a ridiculous assumption, the San Diego-Union Tribune probably would not have printed multiple stories dedicated to the flight.
Another article talked about the flight in a San Diego context:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...1b30tjair.html
Quote:
Tim Smith, president and chief executive of San Diego Travel Group, said the flight looks attractive. “We have no other viable alternative,” he said. “You have to go to Los Angeles.” Most direct international flights from San Diego fly to the Mexican interior. Smith predicted the flight would draw travelers from both sides of the San Diego-Tijuana border area and would be particularly attractive to Japanese executives who work in Baja California's maquiladora manufacturing plants.
and...
Quote:
The flight is one of the few nonstop international flights from the San Diego region. British Airways provided nonstop service from San Diego to London for several years but stopped the service a couple of years ago.
The article also discusses the border crossing:
Quote:
"“The big question,” Smith said, “is what is the trans-border trip going to be like.”
- Note: the Aeromexico schedules indicate that, as of writing, the TIJ-NRT sector of the flight departs around that time:
"Tijuana-Rodriguez (TIJ) to Tokyo (NRT) - AM0058
16/10/09 at 01:55 - 06:45 (+1d) -
Class (Q)
AeroMexico - Non-Stop - Boeing 777"
If it was really that ridiculous of an idea, Tim Smith wouldn't have said that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sassberto
The reason they offer this service is so Mexican-Americans can fly non-stop into Mexico. Almost no one would go to Tijuana to fly to Asia, that is a ridiculous assumption. Again, your ignorance of the region, the attitude San Diegans have towards Tijuana, and your semi-antagonistic denial of the opinions of residents is leading me to believe you are not actually interested in this discussion at all.
Last edited by Vicman; 10-07-2009 at 09:14 PM ..
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10-07-2009, 09:14 PM
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Anyone who is not a Japanese executive visiting a TV maquiladora won't be using it. The majority of San Diegans will not set foot in Tijuana for any reason. San Diego is really not enough of a business hub to support international business travel.
10-07-2009, 09:32 PM
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Digging further, I found an Aeromexico press release that said that the airline planned to attract Mexican nationals and Mexican-Americans living in Socal to the Tokyo flight... maybe they were the specific people that the airline had in mind, and not most of the Americans on the SD side.
Hispanic PR Wire - Aeromexico to Inaugurate Tijuana to Tokyo Non-Stop Service in Mid-November
Quote:
“This is very exciting expansion of Aeromexico’s global service,” said Jose Kuri, senior vice president of Aeromexico, U.S. Division. “We believe the service will be particularly appealing to Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in Southern California who want to travel on a flag carrier.”
This press release was printed for people living in the US side, as it said in the header
Quote:
Aeromexico, Mexico’s largest airline, today announced it will inaugurate twice weekly non-stop flights between Tijuana and Tokyo’s Narita Airport November 17, providing Southern California a new option for travel to the Far East.
10-07-2009, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
Vicman
Since Japan Airlines plans to pull out of Mexico (JAL currently operates Mexico City-Vancouver-Tokyo Narita), Aeromexico is planning to increase the frequency of its flights to Japan. In addition Aeromexico is restarting Mexico City-Tijuana-Shanghai.
I would have to imagine that Aeromexico is taking over the business that JAL is leaving, but there must be a reason JAL is leaving. I met a Japanese guy that works as a town car driver, driving mostly Japanese businessmen from LAX to San Diego. I have to believe that riding in a town car this way is more preferrable to taking a shuttle between Tijuana.
10-07-2009, 10:31 PM
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Japan Airlines's flight goes through Vancouver. Canada recently imposed visa requirements for Mexican nationals.
News Release - Canada imposes a visa on Mexico - I wonder if the new visa requirement is hurting JAL's flight.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
f_m
I would have to imagine that Aeromexico is taking over the business that JAL is leaving, but there must be a reason JAL is leaving. I met a Japanese guy that works as a town car driver, driving mostly Japanese businessmen from LAX to San Diego. I have to believe that riding in a town car this way is more preferrable to taking a shuttle between Tijuana.
11-07-2009, 01:56 PM
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11-08-2009, 12:32 AM
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Yeah, this idea had been floated previous to 9/11. And even before 9/11 some folx went "eek!" at the notion.
What's "good" for Europe is not necessarily good for America.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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