10-25-2010, 07:15 PM
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Richmond?! Oakland?! I don't think the OP is looking to get shot!
10-25-2010, 07:24 PM
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Richmond?! Oakland?! I don't think the OP is looking to get shot!
What about Modesto?
10-25-2010, 08:01 PM
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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These kinds of threads always attract venomous trolls and really ignorant people who just don't know what it is they are talking about.
10-25-2010, 10:31 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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Morgan Hill is not cheap. It's more expensive than many parts of San Jose. Actually, SJ has some of the cheapest decent properties for many many miles around.
10-27-2010, 01:15 PM
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Morgan Hill is not cheap. It's more expensive than many parts of San Jose. Actually, SJ has some of the cheapest decent properties for many many miles around.
East SJ? Eastridge mall area?
10-27-2010, 06:08 PM
Location: Pleasanton, CA
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East SJ? Eastridge mall area?
What are you looking for exactly? Your posts are incredibly vague. What is your criteria? There are lots of cheap (by CA standards) places in the Bay Area, but usually for a reason. Usually either the crime is high or the commute is horrible.
As previously posted, Morgan Hill is not cheap. Gilroy is cheaper. Hollister is even cheaper than Gilroy. The further south you go though, the further you go away from the main job-centers. East San Jose is a broad term. Typically East SJ refers to the more gritty area on the east side of the city, but actually there are many areas on the east side that are nice. The area directly around Eastridge Mall is not very nice. The further east you go, especially up into the hills, the nicer it gets. Also, the further southeast you go, it gets very nice as you head through the Evergreen/Silver Creek Valley area.
You also mentioned Livermore and Modesto. Livermore is expensive as well as the whole Tri-Valley area in general (Pleasanton, Dublin, Livermore, etc.). Modesto is cheaper but it's in the Central Valley, so not really relevant to this message board.
You're not giving us much info to help you with. You keep throwing out random places and asking if they're cheap. Do you have a job lined up? Do you have a budget? Do you have a family and need access to good schools? Are you even looking to move here?
10-29-2010, 04:07 AM
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Richmond isn't that cheap, and not everyone is too wussified to live there (or Oakland).
I used to work in that town, and looked at housing before deciding to stay in SF... rentals were on-par with most of the surrounding areas, aka Berkeley & Pinole, and even the real estate wasn't inexpensive. Example, I looked at a complex of condos for sale, and the smallest units were over $300K. You can find some cheap foreclosures in the "Iron Triangle," but even I would probably steer clear of that neighborhood.
I agree we'd need more info to make good suggestions, but typically the farther east you go the cheaper it gets... Concord, Tracy (still Bay Area?), Pleasant Hill, etc. I've also looked at renting in those towns, and it was considerably cheaper than anything in Richmond - even Oakland. Morgan Hill is actually kind of pricey, but nearby Gilroy isn't too bad. Here's an idea, go to SFBay Craigslist and type in maximum $900/mo, then see what towns pop up.
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10-29-2010, 10:04 AM
Location: THE USA
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So where is the cheapest place to live in Bay Area?
Anywhere on section 8. LOL
Obviously where there is lots of crime it tends to be lower income areas.
Parts of Oakland, parts of Concord, parts of San Jose, parts of East Palo Alto,parts of Richmond, parts of Hayward, parts of Tracy, parts of Vallejo, parts of Benicia, parts of Pittsburg, parts of Antioch. I am sure there are others.
Craigslist
Oct 29 -
$900 / 2br - !!!!Charming professionally managed 2 bedroom unit!!!! (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/2030955247.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (ingleside / SFSU / CCSF)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$795 / 1br - November Special! Stunning 1 bedroom apartment near Lake Merritt (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031930379.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland lake merritt / grand)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$895 / 2br - Cute Two Bedroom, 900 Square Feet, Large Bedrooms (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031920955.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (fairfield / vacaville)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$850 / 1br - 1br - Sunny fantastic Berkeley unit (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031909088.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (berkeley)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
2br - 2bd/1ba w/Heated Pool, Sauna, & Tennis Court in El Sobrante (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031904239.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (hercules, pinole, san pablo, el sob)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
6br - 3 bath one floor Livermore House for Rent (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031898736.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (dublin / pleasanton / livermore)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$850 / 1br - Senior Community Affordable One Bedroom Apartment Homes (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031895519.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (napa county)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$775 / 1br - Large studio - Rent Includes All Utilities (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031895526.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (pittsburg / antioch)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$875 / 1br - Large 1 bedrm apt avail now (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031885184.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland lake merritt / grand)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
2br - * Luxury Apartment Community!! (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/apa/2031885439.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (pacifica)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$195 / 1br - Town House (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/apa/2031384248.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (san jose downtown)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
2br - Laurel Street Apartments (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/2031881222.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (financial district)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$795 / 1br - 1ba - Apartment - 1625 Slater Street #A3 (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031867001.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$775 / 1br - SPACIOUS APARTMENT NEWLY DECORATED (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031863234.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (hercules, pinole, san pablo, el sob)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$850 / 2br - HALF OFF SECOND MONTH'S RENT (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031859613.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (hercules, pinole, san pablo, el sob)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$850 / 1br - 1 bath - 3143 Primrose Ave. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031858040.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$800 / 1br - 1 Bath - 103 Ripley Ct. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031856086.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$800 / 1br - Downtown (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/apa/2031851246.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (Felton)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$900 / 2br - 1ba - Apartment - 2268 Bethards Drive #2 (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031844605.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$700 / 1br - 1 bath - 407-B Lincoln St. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031839970.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$650 / 1br - 1 bath - 487 Hearn Ave. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031832118.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$600 / 2br - Special offer for this month for apt. in a gated community in PINOLE (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031825366.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (hercules, pinole, san pablo, el sob)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$793 / 1br - Santa Clara Seniors 55+ Wait List Open (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/apa/2031824719.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa clara)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$900 / 1br - A Lovely One Bedroom Unit. Rent Incl. Garbage,Water&Internet (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031811448.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland lake merritt / grand)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$900 / 1br - A Beautiful & Spacious One Bedroom Apt. Rent Inc. Water,Garb,Internet (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031792098.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland piedmont / montclair)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$730 / 2br - renovated apartment home (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031814687.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (danville / san ramon)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$200 / 1br - manager wanted, 1 or 2 bedroom (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031424797.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (fairfield / vacaville)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$895 / 2br - Cute, Spacious Two Bedroom in Vacaville (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031798955.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (fairfield / vacaville)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$850 / 1br - 1846 8th Ave (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031793907.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland lake merritt / grand)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$900 / 1br - Newly huge clean apt for single! (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/apa/2031771850.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (san jose downtown)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$775 / 1br - A treat, not a trick...excellent apartment home. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031766020.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland lake merritt / grand)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$825 / 1br - Large Rincon Vly apt, cathedral ceilings, by Olivers Market (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031758895.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa rosa)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$849 / 1br - WELCOME TO YOUR NEW HOME!!! (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031747441.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (fairfield / vacaville)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$775 / 1br - Antioch Apartment in Good Location (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031739538.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (pittsburg / antioch)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$875 / 1br - South Sebastopol with W/D & Utilities "FREE RENT TO 11/15" (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031696531.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (sebastopol)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$800 / 1br - with room phenomenal around fine dining (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031661183.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (alameda)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$850 / 1br - 2Wks RENTOFF,Elegant 1BdRm with NewKitchenFlrs&Painted,Close2Bart,Prkg (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031494837.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland east)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$815 / 1br - 2Wks RENT OFF,1Bdrm Quiet Neighborhood,Newly Painted,TileFlrs,Parking, (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031494446.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland east)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$840 / 1br - 2WKS RENTOFF, 1Bdrm,WoodFloor,GraniteCountertops,Laundry,Parking (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031493831.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland east)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$795 / 1br - Cozy 1 bedroom 1 bath apt (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031493363.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland east)[/SIZE]
Oct 29 -
$798 / 1br - 2Wks RentOff,Sunny1BdRm with NewlyPainted,Close2Bart,Parking,TileFlrs (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031492680.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (oakland east)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$830 / 1br - EXTRA LARGE 1 BRM IN A SERENE SETTING (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031490987.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (fairfield / vacaville)[/SIZE] img
Oct 29 -
$795 / 1br - FANTASTIC MARINA VIEW DUPEX UNIT (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031487819.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (vallejo / benicia)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 29 -
$750 / 1br - Classic Airstream near Beach & Harbor. Incl. util. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/apa/2031481466.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (santa cruz)[/SIZE] pic
Oct 28 -
$725 / 1br - Clean 1 Bedroom Apartment - Close to Downtown and Local Library (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/2031462147.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (healdsburg / windsor)[/SIZE] img
Oct 28 -
$900 / 1br - San Lorenzo Apartment For Rent (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2031461756.html - broken link) - [SIZE=-1] (hayward / castro valley)[/SIZE]
10-29-2010, 11:43 AM
Location: San Jose, CA
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East SJ? Eastridge mall area?
Yes, that's one of the cheaper parts of San Jose. I live about a mile and a half from Eastridge. The area around Capitol/Silver Creek is not bad at all for how affordable it is, but it doesn't look like much. The houses are really really ugly.. and the traffic is a constant headache.
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I thought it was inland like Livermore or Gilroy?
Gilroy
should be the cheapest place in the Bay Area to live. OMG.
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Educational Attainment - Bachelor's degree (%)
Educational Attainment - Master's degree (%)
Educational Attainment - Professional school degree (%)
Educational Attainment - Doctorate degree (%)
School Enrollment - Nursery, preschool (%)
School Enrollment - Kindergarten (%)
School Enrollment - Grade 1 to 4 (%)
School Enrollment - Grade 5 to 8 (%)
School Enrollment - Grade 9 to 12 (%)
School Enrollment - College undergrad (%)
School Enrollment - Graduate or professional (%)
School Enrollment - Not enrolled in school (%)
School enrollment - Public schools (%)
School enrollment - Private schools (%)
School enrollment - Not enrolled (%)
Median number of rooms in houses and condos
Median number of rooms in apartments
Housing units lacking complete plumbing facilities (%)
Housing units lacking complete kitchen facilities (%)
Density of houses
Urban houses (%)
Rural houses (%)
Households with people 60 years and over (%)
Households with people 65 years and over (%)
Households with people 75 years and over (%)
Households with one or more nonrelatives (%)
Households with no nonrelatives (%)
Population in households (%)
Family households (%)
Nonfamily households (%)
Population in families (%)
Family households with own children (%)
Median number of bedrooms in owner occupied houses
Mean number of bedrooms in owner occupied houses
Median number of bedrooms in renter occupied houses
Mean number of bedrooms in renter occupied houses
Median number of vehichles in owner occupied houses
Mean number of vehichles in owner occupied houses
Median number of vehichles in renter occupied houses
Mean number of vehichles in renter occupied houses
Mortgage status - with mortgage (%)
Mortgage status - with second mortgage (%)
Mortgage status - with home equity loan (%)
Mortgage status - with both second mortgage and home equity loan (%)
Mortgage status - without a mortgage (%)
Average family size
Average family size - White
Average family size - Black or African American
Average family size - Asian
Average family size - Hispanic or Latino
Average family size - American Indian and Alaska Native
Average family size - Multirace
Average family size - Other Race
Geographical mobility - Same house 1 year ago (%)
Geographical mobility - Moved within same county (%)
Geographical mobility - Moved from different county within same state (%)
Geographical mobility - Moved from different state (%)
Geographical mobility - Moved from abroad (%)
Place of birth - Born in state of residence (%)
Place of birth - Born in other state (%)
Place of birth - Native, outside of US (%)
Place of birth - Foreign born (%)
Housing units in structures - 1, detached (%)
Housing units in structures - 1, attached (%)
Housing units in structures - 2 (%)
Housing units in structures - 3 or 4 (%)
Housing units in structures - 5 to 9 (%)
Housing units in structures - 10 to 19 (%)
Housing units in structures - 20 to 49 (%)
Housing units in structures - 50 or more (%)
Housing units in structures - Mobile home (%)
Housing units in structures - Boat, RV, van, etc. (%)
House/condo owner moved in on average (years ago)
Renter moved in on average (years ago)
Year householder moved into unit - Moved in 1999 to March 2000 (%)
Year householder moved into unit - Moved in 1995 to 1998 (%)
Year householder moved into unit - Moved in 1990 to 1994 (%)
Year householder moved into unit - Moved in 1980 to 1989 (%)
Year householder moved into unit - Moved in 1970 to 1979 (%)
Year householder moved into unit - Moved in 1969 or earlier (%)
Means of transportation to work - Drove car alone (%)
Means of transportation to work - Carpooled (%)
Means of transportation to work - Public transportation (%)
Means of transportation to work - Bus or trolley bus (%)
Means of transportation to work - Streetcar or trolley car (%)
Means of transportation to work - Subway or elevated (%)
Means of transportation to work - Railroad (%)
Means of transportation to work - Ferryboat (%)
Means of transportation to work - Taxicab (%)
Means of transportation to work - Motorcycle (%)
Means of transportation to work - Bicycle (%)
Means of transportation to work - Walked (%)
Means of transportation to work - Other means (%)
Working at home (%)
Industry diversity
Most Common Industries - Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, and mining (%)
Most Common Industries - Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting (%)
Most Common Industries - Mining, quarrying, and oil and gas extraction (%)
Most Common Industries - Construction (%)
Most Common Industries - Manufacturing (%)
Most Common Industries - Wholesale trade (%)
Most Common Industries - Retail trade (%)
Most Common Industries - Transportation and warehousing, and utilities (%)
Most Common Industries - Transportation and warehousing (%)
Most Common Industries - Utilities (%)
Most Common Industries - Information (%)
Most Common Industries - Finance and insurance, and real estate and rental and leasing (%)
Most Common Industries - Finance and insurance (%)
Most Common Industries - Real estate and rental and leasing (%)
Most Common Industries - Professional, scientific, and management, and administrative and waste management services (%)
Most Common Industries - Professional, scientific, and technical services (%)
Most Common Industries - Management of companies and enterprises (%)
Most Common Industries - Administrative and support and waste management services (%)
Most Common Industries - Educational services, and health care and social assistance (%)
Most Common Industries - Educational services (%)
Most Common Industries - Health care and social assistance (%)
Most Common Industries - Arts, entertainment, and recreation, and accommodation and food services (%)
Most Common Industries - Arts, entertainment, and recreation (%)
Most Common Industries - Accommodation and food services (%)
Most Common Industries - Other services, except public administration (%)
Most Common Industries - Public administration (%)
Occupation diversity
Most Common Occupations - Management, business, science, and arts occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Management, business, and financial occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Management occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Business and financial operations occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Computer, engineering, and science occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Computer and mathematical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Architecture and engineering occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Life, physical, and social science occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Education, legal, community service, arts, and media occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Community and social service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Legal occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Education, training, and library occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Arts, design, entertainment, sports, and media occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare practitioners and technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I used to work in that town, and looked at housing before deciding to stay in SF... rentals were on-par with most of the surrounding areas, aka Berkeley & Pinole, and even the real estate wasn't inexpensive. Example, I looked at a complex of condos for sale, and the smallest units were over $300K. You can find some cheap foreclosures in the "Iron Triangle," but even I would probably steer clear of that neighborhood.
