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Old 03-11-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Apparently 21,000 people, most of whom could live anywhere they want.
People who want to live in an urban neighborhood with good transit access that is centrally located to all of the Bay.

(And people who want to have a shorter commute to downtown SF than most of SF residents)

People who live in condos in other neighborhoods who want something newer.
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Old 03-11-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: yeah
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It's cool that downtown Oakland is picking back up but I don't think the formula of adding white people and losing black people (25% over ten years) is ideal...
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Old 03-11-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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These stats would be way more interesting if they added class as well. I know plenty of middle-upper class black people moving into Oakland (no families yet), but on the same token there is a big exodus in the poorer neighborhoods.

Looking closer at the demographics, it is more likely singles are moving in and families are moving out.

Generally african americans are leaving the Bay for greener pastures in droves, so these stats are a reflection of that.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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I was reading about this, it's not just whites moving back into downtown, it's Asians, Latinos, Blacks, Middle Easterners and whites. It's not like typical gentrified area's where it's mostly whites moving back into the city. It's more of a class issue than race issue. I was looking at transferring to Oakland and looked into that ellington building, which is both for sale and renting. It's not exactly affordable for most people to rent or own there.




http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/2256696715.htmlgl
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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It's cool that downtown Oakland is picking back up but I don't think the formula of adding white people and losing black people (25% over ten years) is ideal...
There really shouldnt be a but becauseWhites moving to Oakland, by the thousands at that, really has nothing to do with any policies by Oakland specifically meant to encourage Black exodus from the city.

In fact, California as a whole lost Blacks, as did many other states.

We can pretend that Oakland is the only place losing Blacks but that would be false.
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Old 03-11-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: yeah
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I didn't mean to imply that it was master plan or anything...
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Old 03-11-2011, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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I didn't mean to imply that it was master plan or anything...
I know...dont mind me...I make much ado about nothing.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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It only cost the city a new baseball stadium..
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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It only cost the city a new baseball stadium..
Well, it seems like every proposed stadium/arena in California is being threatened right now. Even the new 49ers stadium in Santa Clara is looking at how to find funding elsewhere if the state pulls its redevelopment funds as part of proposed budget cuts.

As far as Oakland and the A's, its still to early to tell what will happen(fingers crossed).
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:02 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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honestly they will stay i think

giants have too much clout

san jose is broke like every other city

selig cant convince other mlb owners to get on board

Until the market picks up San Jose is as dead as fremont
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