07-24-2011, 09:36 PM
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or the Chargers down here. I'm just starting this discussion, argument, because I don't like the backlash, crap I have received from some people for me being a 49ers fan in Southern California, I've lived in Southern California my entire life, born and raised here, Orange County to be exact. The crap, backlash I've received have been from some San Francisco Giants fans or San Jose Sharks fans, they expect me to be a fan of all the other Bay Area Professional Sports teams, or that it is not right to be a 49ers NFL fan and be a fan of Southern California Professional Sports teams like the Angels, Ducks, Lakers, etc. I find that to be very unfair, just because the L.A. Metropolitan area, market, which includes L.A. County, Orange County, Riverside County, San Bernadino County, and Ventura County lacks an NFL team means we have to be either a Raiders fan or a Chargers fan, eventhough the Raiders moved back to Oakland 16 years ago, and Oakland is in the Bay Area, they don't care or don't mind SoCal natives being Raider fans(Yes the Raiders used to be in L.A., the 49ers never have been, but the Raiders have been in the Bay Area for more than half their history) but they seem to have a problem with SoCal natives, residents being a 49ers fan. There are tons of Cowboys and Steelers fans in Southern California, or throughout all of California and I bet that half of them are probably not even transplants, in which they have no relative connections to Texas or Pennsylvania. For example, there are tons of Dallas Cowboys I bet who are not even fans of the Dallas Mavericks or Texas Rangers, or Steelers fans who are not Pittsburgh Pirates fans, or Pittsburgh Penguins fans, but yet they don't get crap or backlash, at least the 49ers are a California NFL team. And no, I'm not hinting out that I want the 49ers to move to L.A., I hope they stay in the Bay Area, but it would be nice if L.A. or Orange County had an NFL team, an NFC team so I could go to a few 49ers games a year, the 49ers being the visiting team, I will still stay a 49ers fan even if the L.A. region gets an NFL team, but seriously, Cowboys and Steelers fans don't get crap given to them, backlash for being a SoCal Cowboys, Steelers fan yet when those SoCal Cowboys, Steelers fans are not even from Texas or Pittsburgh, don't have any friends or relatives from there either.
It's really simple...if you want to be a 49er fan in OC, then be a 49er fan in OC. BUT considering the intense and longstanding LA-SF rivalry, don't be surprised when sports fans in either city give you some grief about it. Grow a pair and deal with it...after all we're talking about football here. A good repertoire of Charger / Raider / Ram / Giants / Sharks comeback lines will serve you well in your exchanges, depending on who is giving you the business.
If you stick to your guns, you may just earn respect from people for going against the grain, and being a "true" fan, despite what you have to deal with because of your Niner loyalty. I mean, lighten up, it's not like just because you're in LA someone is going to attack you for being a fan of a San Francisco team...oh, wait a minute...
P.S. Hitting the carriage return / enter key a couple of times now and then will also serve you well on an internet forum. Huge text blocks hurt the baby Jesus.
P.S.S. Go Rams!
...and good luck with the new coach 49er fans, I think you're gonna need it with the shortened pre-season.
07-25-2011, 11:58 AM
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The 49ers may become a SoCal team if they can't get a new stadium.
07-25-2011, 03:37 PM
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[quote=OakAve2OakLand;20162525]It's really simple...if you want to be a 49er fan in OC, then be a 49er fan in OC. BUT considering the intense and longstanding LA-SF rivalry, don't be surprised when sports fans in either city give you some grief about it. Grow a pair and deal with it...after all we're talking about football here. A good repertoire of Charger / Raider / Ram / Giants / Sharks comeback lines will serve you well in your exchanges, depending on who is giving you the business.
07-26-2011, 10:07 PM
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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There does not need to be a sport involved to maintain the vitriol that is the SF-LA rivalry. It is imminently transcendent.
07-27-2011, 06:09 PM
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so your saying it's not Sports-Related?
07-27-2011, 07:21 PM
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To the OP - on a technical note: I don't know how you're doing it, but you're botching the "quote" function. For instance, a few posts above, this quote was attributed to me:
"Well L.A. doesn't have an NFL team, so there really is no LA-SF NFL rivalry anymore since L.A. does not have a team"
I think that was from
you responding to
my post which talked about an "intense, long-standing rivalry" between LA and SF. In fact, I would argue against the point made above (or at least reframe it in terms of a broader, non-NFL-related, rivalry)...even though I supposedly "said" it.
Similarly, in the post above, you seem to be arguing with yourself. Now this strikes me as a fairly tolerant forum, so I would think that people with multiple personalities who wish to debate themselves are welcome to do so...but somehow I don't think that's what you're intending.
I would advise just keep your own responding comments outside of the quote block, and you should be fine...and feeling like your old self again in no time.
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07-27-2011, 07:26 PM
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OakAve2OakLand
To the OP - on a technical note: I don't know how you're doing it, but you're botching the "quote" function. For instance, a few posts above, this quote was attributed to me:
"Well L.A. doesn't have an NFL team, so there really is no LA-SF NFL rivalry anymore since L.A. does not have a team"
I think that was from
you responding to
my post which talked about an "intense, long-standing rivalry" between LA and SF. In fact, I would argue against the point made above (or at least reframe it in terms of a larger, non-NFL-related, rivalry)...even though I supposedly "said" it.
Similarly, in the post above, you seem to be arguing with yourself. This strikes me as a fairly tolerant forum, so I would think people with multiple personalities who wish to debate themselves are welcome to do so...but somehow I don't think that's what you're intending.
I would advise just keep your own responding comments outside of the quote block, and you should be fine...and feeling like your old self again in no time.
okay....
07-27-2011, 07:40 PM
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okay....
Perfect!
And, sorry, I don't mean to come across as some kind of fourm cop, but the thread was getting hard to follow with all the quote crossing. Maybe it was a technical glitch on C-D's end, idk.
07-28-2011, 12:50 AM
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Perfect!
sorry, i just don't like the crap i've received for being a fan of the 49ers
07-28-2011, 03:06 PM
Location: Oroville, California
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i've only received crap from Bay Area people, not SoCal people yet, but the Raiders belong in Oakland, I don't get why they are still associated with L.A., they have been gone from L.A. longer than they were there
To be honest I think its a Hispanic/Mexican thing. Sort of their "national' team now regardless where they live.
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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or the Chargers down here. I'm just starting this discussion, argument, because I don't like the backlash, crap I have received from some people for me being a 49ers fan in Southern California, I've lived in Southern California my entire life, born and raised here, Orange County to be exact. The crap, backlash I've received have been from some San Francisco Giants fans or San Jose Sharks fans, they expect me to be a fan of all the other Bay Area Professional Sports teams, or that it is not right to be a 49ers NFL fan and be a fan of Southern California Professional Sports teams like the Angels, Ducks, Lakers, etc. I find that to be very unfair, just because the L.A. Metropolitan area, market, which includes L.A. County, Orange County, Riverside County, San Bernadino County, and Ventura County lacks an NFL team means we have to be either a Raiders fan or a Chargers fan, eventhough the Raiders moved back to Oakland 16 years ago, and Oakland is in the Bay Area, they don't care or don't mind SoCal natives being Raider fans(Yes the Raiders used to be in L.A., the 49ers never have been, but the Raiders have been in the Bay Area for more than half their history) but they seem to have a problem with SoCal natives, residents being a 49ers fan. There are tons of Cowboys and Steelers fans in Southern California, or throughout all of California and I bet that half of them are probably not even transplants, in which they have no relative connections to Texas or Pennsylvania. For example, there are tons of Dallas Cowboys I bet who are not even fans of the Dallas Mavericks or Texas Rangers, or Steelers fans who are not Pittsburgh Pirates fans, or Pittsburgh Penguins fans, but yet they don't get crap or backlash, at least the 49ers are a California NFL team. And no, I'm not hinting out that I want the 49ers to move to L.A., I hope they stay in the Bay Area, but it would be nice if L.A. or Orange County had an NFL team, an NFC team so I could go to a few 49ers games a year, the 49ers being the visiting team, I will still stay a 49ers fan even if the L.A. region gets an NFL team, but seriously, Cowboys and Steelers fans don't get crap given to them, backlash for being a SoCal Cowboys, Steelers fan yet when those SoCal Cowboys, Steelers fans are not even from Texas or Pittsburgh, don't have any friends or relatives from there either.
...and good luck with the new coach 49er fans, I think you're gonna need it with the shortened pre-season.
