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Old 08-19-2007, 06:40 PM
 
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Ok I've finally figured out how to phrase this question that I need to ask... as a single renter in SF, in your opinion how much money would I need per month to live there comfortably?

By comfortable I mean having a decent (even cramped) apartment in a fairly safe neighborhood, be able to afford daily meals--(or not starve), normal leisurely shopping and still enjoy myself at events around town?


Second question: Should I expect that monthly income from an average job in SF? or is that difficult to obtain? (I hear alot of people saying it's too expensive... do the job salaries not match the cost of living?)

If I go there with an open mind ready and willing to take even the crappiest job or a waitress or whatever, will I b e homeless?
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:38 PM
 
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Wink I'm in the same boat!

I'm in the same boat!

Going homeless?! I do not believe that, from what I have heard there are plenty of "Wanted" signs around; you will probably have to take several jobs, but I do not think you will go homeless unless you choose it.

Yes, some salaries do match the cost of living, at least in my area, "computer network engineer". In my case the base salary here where I live is around 40k, there in SF is 60k.

Please look at the "Moving / Relocation Calculator".
http://swz.salary.com/CostOfLivingWi...02.html#moving


Good luck.
Joseph
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:01 PM
 
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Hey ! Thanks for that. I think we are in the same boat too. I keep hearing people say that SF is a very expensive place to live but they never elaborate as to if they are comparing it to cheaper places or if they are working hard and struggling with a fulltime job. I'm not afraid of hard work, but I want to know to what extent will I need to go? Will I need 2 jobs to live comfortably or should a nice receptionist - pay-rate-type job be sufficient for me to live.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:09 PM
 
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I'm single, and it is going to be tough for me. When you have someone besides you for sharing both finances and emotional support, life can become much better.

I follow this saying; when faced with a tough decision, ask yourself, "will it bring me happiness or pleasure"?! Happiness always wins!!

For me I know it will be tough, but that is where my heart is telling me to go, and like you, I'll take whatever job just so I can get up in the morning and be at peace with myself!
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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You should be fine, if you're willing to have a roommate or two... I'm single and make just under 60K, and haven't had any problems yet! I have one roommate in a 3-bedroom house, where we pay a total of $2100/month. We're thinking of getting a 3rd roomie (she's actually already moved in, but on a "trial basis"), and then each person's share would be only $700 if we split evenly - but I pay more than 1/3, since I get the BIG room, private bathroom & use of the garage. Anyway, rent can definitely be reasonable if you share it... or if you're willing to live in a tiny studio, which isn't really worth the cost IMO. You can also compromise on the neighborhood, and live somewhere that's slightly "less desirable." For instance my neighborhood is very safe/quiet, but not really a central location, and only a few blocks from a dangerous area. If you'll consider something besides SoMa, Presidio, Twin Peaks, etc., there are some good deals to be found. So to summarize, I don't think you'll be homeless.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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P.S. Salaries for my field (librarianship) in other places are usually between $35-45K, whereas San Francisco jobs pay from $58-70K... not quite equal to the COL difference, but they do make up for some of it!
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM
 
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Wait, your a girl? Put an add in the paper: attractive, open minded female seeks living arrangement...
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:06 AM
 
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Don't be scared of being homeless, it might open your mind a little. Consider a somewhat dilapidated hotels around, then when you finally find a nice place you won't be such an unappreciating american pig. Worst case senerio, you'll have to move to a trailor park in a bordering county. At least you're not mentally ill or a junkie so you have a chance to make the best of it. How bout buying a used mini van and takin the back seats out, blowin up a mattress, and parking next to safeway. Now that's high class homelessness at it's finest.
Wow finally a voice of reason, in between the masses of spoiled rich on city-data. "I make 30k/year and I live in poverty" LOL
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Reno
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My sister works in the city and commutes down the peninsula. She told me she makes $48k as a receptionist. She rents a nice townhouse for $1800mo and shares that with a roomie. She lives in a very nice neighborhood. I'd say she lives pretty good but I wouldn't want the commuter lifestyle. I think she spends about 1.25 between BART and her car.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Flanders!
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Is it so normal living together in the states, sharing houses? Here in Europe only students do it maybe... And the fact I have emigration plans within 7 years makes me curious.
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