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Old 12-06-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I like the intricate things in life like taking the kids out the lake or raking the leaves off my yard early in the morning. That's all I'm saying.
"Intricate"?
I'm trying to figure out the word that you really want but i'm stumped.
Yeah, so you don't like S.F. and it doesn't suit your wants and needs.
Got it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:38 PM
 
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No, It's not.
Middle class without kids---Ok. Middle class with kids...I agree, pure hell. Poor? Uggh. Forget it, unless you want to milk the system to live off social services, Section 8, etc...but that's not my idea of a good life.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:51 PM
 
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SF: It’s delightfully (and sickeningly) provincial and they don’t even know it, or care.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Ana, CA
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Way too many homeless and liberals there.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:55 AM
 
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The people dress like crap compared to east coast and europeans standards, it’s sort of the anti-fashion, blah, REI, capital of the USA.

I know there are worse places, but there was a time when SF was more fashionable.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:23 AM
 
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SF is the best city in America in my opinion. It is one of the world's truly great cities.

It's not for everybody and yes, it is expensive. But being expensive has nothing to do with how great a city is. SF has it's own identity and culture. It's not for everybody, but I love SF.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Family-friendliness isn't the only measure of a city. In fact, I can't really imagine raising a family on a typical middle class income in any of the world's great cities.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I like the intricate things in life like taking the kids out the lake or raking the leaves off my yard early in the morning. That's all I'm saying.
And that's wonderful but sometimes its nice to be able to get on a subway and 20 minutes later you get to enjoy the day in this environment:




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Old 12-07-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I'm not the biggest fan of SF, but dude you're from Fresno.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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San Francisco is a postcard beauty. On the street level it is one of the ugliest places in California
As opposed to Fresno?

Downtown San Francisco:








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