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Old 10-05-2012, 06:39 AM
 
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My husband and I are moving from Dallas and my new job takes me to Oakland. I'd like to live in the city of San Francisco and would like to stay in a neighborhood close to a BART station. Please can you recommend based on the following criteria:

1. We are looking for a relatively safe pedestrian neighborhood, close to groceries, restaurants etc. Density is a plus for us!

2.Quick access to BART - I am ok with walking upto 15-20 mins to the station.

3.Do most commuters to Oakland take BART to work? Or should I consider driving if I am working late hours?

4.My husband plans to bike to the Caltrain station since work sometimes takes him to Palo Alto, Sunnyvale etc. So something reasonably close for him too. He does have a motorbike too, which makes the distance less of an issue but not sure if he can park this at a station in SF and then ride the CalTrain. The priority still remains the BART station.

3. Our budget is a max of $2500 for a 2 bedroom

Thank you in advance for your help! Truly truly appreciated!
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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You're going to have to increase your budget by at least $500, maybe even $1000 to get exactly what you're looking for - someplace like Glen Park or Noe Valley. Most of the areas near BART in the city are not particularly family-friendly or safe. You might have some luck in West Portal, from which you could ride a light-rail to BART and Caltrain. Potrero Hill could also work, it's near the 22nd Street Caltrain and the 3rd street train to downtown and BART.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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4.My husband plans to bike to the Caltrain station since work sometimes takes him to Palo Alto, Sunnyvale etc. So something reasonably close for him too. He does have a motorbike too, which makes the distance less of an issue but not sure if he can park this at a station in SF and then ride the CalTrain. The priority still remains the BART station.
Why couldn't he just ride it all the way to Palo Alto? There is plenty of (paid) motorcycle parking around the King St. station, so he could park & ride, but I don't really see the point -- especially since, if you do end up in Noe Valley/Glen Park/etc. it would take him 15-20 minutes just to get to Caltrain.

Lots of people do the SF to Peninsula commute on motorcycles. It's especially nice that California allows "filtering" a.k.a. "lane-sharing" -- so traffic is rarely an issue.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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3.Do most commuters to Oakland take BART to work? Or should I consider driving if I am working late hours?


Where is your office?

Lots of Oakland workers live in Oakland or other east bay suburbs, so lots of people drive too.

Personally, if you work around Lake Merritt, it pretty much closes up after dark, especially away from Chinatown.

Downtown around 12th or 19th has a good amount of foot traffic into the evenings.

The rest of the BART stations are in more residential or industrial areas. If you work around the Coliseum BART, that area isn't pedestrian friendly, so I'd just drive.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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3. Our budget is a max of $2500 for a 2 bedroom
This won't work in San Francisco!

You can get this in Oakland or in the suburbs, but not in SF.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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Glen Park would definitely work (you can ride BART down to Millbrae and transfer to Caltrain) but yeah your budget probably limits you unless you can do a 1br.

At that budget honestly I would recommend Rockridge in Oakland, it has a BART station and is a really nice pedestrian-friendly neighborhood with a lot of local shops and restaurants. But the commute to Sunnyvale and Palo Alto would really be a drag.

Alternatively you could live in northern San Mateo County, somewhere like Millbrae or San Bruno. From Millbrae to downtown Oakland is about 45 minutes on BART which isn't TOO terrible. Here's a place just a few blocks from the Millbrae BART/Caltrain station.

2 bedroom 1 bath for rent walk to Mills High

As for riding late at night on BART in downtown Oakland, it depends on how street smart and resilient you are, there are a lot of sketchy people hanging around downtown Oakland at night and in its BART stations. It's not really a high crime area, it just doesn't feel safe.

Also if your work isn't in downtown Oakland or near another Oakland BART station then riding BART wouldn't really help, but driving through rush hour traffic to Oakland can really suck depending on where you're coming from. And there's not much parking around downtown Oakland so if you want to drive at night make sure you have somewhere to park.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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As for riding late at night on BART in downtown Oakland, it depends on how street smart and resilient you are, there are a lot of sketchy people hanging around downtown Oakland at night and in its BART stations. It's not really a high crime area, it just doesn't feel safe.
I disagree about this sentiment. I think it feels like there is less foot traffic than you'd expect. But as for walking to and from BART, I'd put the safety level as sort of middle of the road. I've felt fine strolling around the BART stations at midnight for 10 years, and it has improved a lot over those 10 years. You need common sense. But let's say, it is way less sketchy than Civic Center, Mission BART stations, West Oakland BART, probably even Bayfair BART, Fruitvale BART. You play less homeless hopscotch than you do at Embarcadero, Montgomery or Powell Street Stations.

I'd put it about the level of downtown Berkley in terms of street smarts and safety. Which is more dangerous than let's say Dublin or Walnut Creek, but not bad. I'd be fine walking to BART alone at any time during BART hours on the main arteries of downtown Oakland. Basic common sense and awareness is sufficient.

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And there's not much parking around downtown Oakland so if you want to drive at night make sure you have somewhere to park.
Disagree.
There are a million paid lots downtown, but not much street parking. Probably too many actually. But most of the high rises don't have parking so you'll need to check out t a 3rd party lot. Some close early. I'd say it is harder to find a spot after 8 in certain parts of downtown.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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$2500 for a 2br in glen park will be tough. Commuting from the East Bay to Palo alto will not be fun either.

If you are set on the city, you may want to try the area around Balboa Park Bart. It's not as nice as glen park, but you have a better chance with that budget.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:17 PM
 
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I disagree about this sentiment. I think it feels like there is less foot traffic than you'd expect. But as for walking to and from BART, I'd put the safety level as sort of middle of the road. I've felt fine strolling around the BART stations at midnight for 10 years, and it has improved a lot over those 10 years. You need common sense. But let's say, it is way less sketchy than Civic Center, Mission BART stations, West Oakland BART, probably even Bayfair BART, Fruitvale BART. You play less homeless hopscotch than you do at Embarcadero, Montgomery or Powell Street Stations.
Like I said your mileage will vary. As a guy I don't care about going about downtown Oakland at night, though it just has a rough around the edge vibe to it, but a woman might get really freaked out. On the other hand I KNOW downtown SF away from the tourist streets is more dangerous at night and I pick up on it. I think someone who isn't used to the Bay Area won't pick up on it and will feel like downtown Oakland is more dangerous, even though it has more going on at night than downtown SF.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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Where is your office?
Thank you so much for your responses! Glen park seems to be the best option if I re-evaluate my budget. As for where exactly my office is: Its 3 blocks from the 19th street BART station in Oakland.

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