Do you see Gentrification and an influx of Hipsters and/or Yuppies from SF lately in Oakland? (San Francisco: high crime, how much)

[the12ronin]

Why are all my friends moving to Oakland? - The Bold Italic - San Francisco


Let me know if the vibe is starting to feel different to you around Oak-town, and if you think it's headed down the same dark road of self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed, self-serving selling out that is now SF's dark cloud hovering over it.


Oakland seems to be one of the last cities(the very last in the Bay) in the country that is still keeping it real, and has it's grime and grit along with it's friendliness and genuineness intact.

Unfortunately, that always seems to attract the very element that ultimately stamps it out and destroys it utterly with gentrification, and en masse commercializing for the mainstream(RIP Brooklyn).

"Nobody's -trying- to be cool over in(insert non-mainstream city here), so let's go be cool like them and move over there and away from all these -cool-kids here! Let's be different!"


Do you think there's a fair chance Oakland is going to be "cookie-cuttered" in the next few years and lose it's beloved gritty, harsher edge largely due to the fact that SF has been done to death, and the hordes of hopelessly vanilla folk are on the prowl for fresh meat?


Perhaps that's the one positive the high crime statistics impart: they help stave off the overthrow and subsequent demise of Oakland's indigenous culture and vibe.

[Ruth4Truth]

Sounds like the inevitable result of a booming tech sector. The process seems unstoppable.

[the12ronin]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Sounds like the inevitable result of a booming tech sector. The process seems unstoppable.

agreed on that point.

[bmw335xi]

I've noticed a lot of hipsters in Oakland. Ugh, you can have them too lol.

[gaijin_samurai]

Far better to have a bunch of harmless hipsters than a bunch of criminal gangsters around.

[matt345]

I frequently hear people complain about how judgmental, elitist, and self-absorbed San Francisco is, how it's not "real", and how much better Oakland is. Yet don't these people realize that by constantly knocking on SF and proclaiming their superiority by living in Oakland, they themselves have also become judgmental, elitist, and self-absorbed? The vast majority of people that I meet in SF are either neutral, or have good things to say about Oakland when I tell them that I live across the Bay. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but I experience Oakland residents putting down SF a lot more than the other way around.

[clongirl]

Hipsters won't be hipsters forever....just another trend. Give it several years and that fad will die out after they get married, have kids or get a bit older and less concerned with how they look/act. Something new will inevitably take its place.

[Obamadon1]

Originally Posted by matt345

I frequently hear people complain about how judgmental, elitist, and self-absorbed San Francisco is, how it's not "real", and how much better Oakland is. Yet don't these people realize that by constantly knocking on SF and proclaiming their superiority by living in Oakland, they themselves have also become judgmental, elitist, and self-absorbed? The vast majority of people that I meet in SF are either neutral, or have good things to say about Oakland when I tell them that I live across the Bay. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but I experience Oakland residents putting down SF a lot more than the other way around.

I'm with you. I welcome outpriced SF hipsters with open arms. The more the merrier. It wasn't very long ago downtown Oakland was abandoned after 5 pm. I'll gladly take the hipster masses and everything that comes with them (bars, restaurants, bike lanes, higher rents, demands for dog park, etc). I remember the alternative.

And for the record I think SF is great. If I didn't live here, I'd live there.

[the12ronin]

Originally Posted by matt345

I frequently hear people complain about how judgmental, elitist, and self-absorbed San Francisco is, how it's not "real", and how much better Oakland is. Yet don't these people realize that by constantly knocking on SF and proclaiming their superiority by living in Oakland, they themselves have also become judgmental, elitist, and self-absorbed? The vast majority of people that I meet in SF are either neutral, or have good things to say about Oakland when I tell them that I live across the Bay. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but I experience Oakland residents putting down SF a lot more than the other way around.

Fair post here.

[the12ronin]

Originally Posted by Obamadon1

I'm with you. I welcome outpriced SF hipsters with open arms. The more the merrier. It wasn't very long ago downtown Oakland was abandoned after 5 pm. I'll gladly take the hipster masses and everything that comes with them (bars, restaurants, bike lanes, higher rents, demands for dog park, etc). I remember the alternative.

And for the record I think SF is great. If I didn't live here, I'd live there.

Another very good point, except for just one thing...


..the hipsters themselves..ugh.



..helluva price to pay I'd say.