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Old 02-03-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Part of why San Francisco seems "small" to a lot of people is because many literally haven't seen 60%+ of the city, including some of the residents. This is "San Francisco" to a lot of Bay Area locals and transplants:



And for tourists, the area is generally even smaller:



Some tourists literally only see Market Street and Fisherman's Wharf.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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Part of why San Francisco seems "small" to a lot of people is because many literally haven't seen 60%+ of the city, including some of the residents. This is "San Francisco" to a lot of Bay Area locals and transplants:



And for tourists, the area is generally even smaller:



Some tourists literally only see Market Street and Fisherman's Wharf.
Yup, and the SOMA area colored in there wouldn't have been colored in about 10 years ago. The colored area should and hopefully will grow to Bayview, Hunter's Point, Dogpatch, and Candlestick over the next 10

SF isn't that big. If you go to NYC, Chicago, Houston, or even LA, it just feels big. Tons of huge buildings everywhere. SF isn't like that and it's sub-1M. It can and should be much bigger and denser, but unfortunately, building in SF is impossible and we got overly restrictive zoning

Downtown, North Beach, Civic Center should have way more skyscrapers (40+ stories). The city could easily be 2M+ in population
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:23 AM
 
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And rolling into this little patch about half the size of Iowa city.
Twice the size of Iowa City.

And someone else posted that San Francisco was the 8th largest city in the country. It's 14th.

Sorry for the nitpicks. They just bug me in a factual discussion

I think Nineties Flava hit it on the head. Most people only experience a small part of San Francisco. Many people never bother to go over the ridgeline (I don't necessarily blame them, as the northern and eastern parts of the city have so much to offer). I'm not even sure I'd color in the Richmond (maybe just a couple blocks around Arguello?), Cole Valley or Corona Heights. And social circles can be very narrow.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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I'm from Buenos Aires (Argentina) a 3 million people city, 10 counting the suburbs. SF it's a tiny place. It feels more like a big town than a big metropoli.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Studio City, CA
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As a Native New Yorker, I will tell you now, San Francisco is Small. Period.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Irving, TX
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Lets be honest. SF is a small city. People that live in San Francisco have a big city mentality on the other hand. When people in SF regularly compare their city to Tokyo, NYC, London or Chicago it speaks to something else on the other hand. SF is like a teenage girl that is wearing makeup, she's just trying to hard to seem sexy.
SF is a surprisingly provincial city. I lived there and was routinely amazed at how much SF residents *didn't* know about the rest of the world (or the rest of the US, for that matter). People I knew from NYC and Chicago actually laughed out loud when locals compared the city to theirs. It's a nice enough place, but the idea that SF is the beating heart of the whole MSA is simply silly -- SF would have nothing but tourism and subsidiary finance if San Jose dried up.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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Comparing SF to e.g., Houston, NYC, Chicago, and LA isn't really fair. Those cities have much larger land area that includes suburbs (or boroughs).

I think the SF Bay Area is by itself a single economic region. SF, SV, and SJ are all an integrated unit, and ppl from East Bay (from Oakland to Fremont) commute to these places for work. Most of it is densely populated. The stretches of less populated areas will likely be filled up with housing and commercial space over the next 10-20 years, making the region even more integrated

Comparing to LA for example, SF is like central LA and while SJ is akin to the Century City area, and SV is our hollywood, beverly hills.

Viewed this way, SF Ba Area is quite large, a few hundred square miles and about 7 million residents

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Old 02-04-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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SF is a surprisingly provincial city. I lived there and was routinely amazed at how much SF residents *didn't* know about the rest of the world (or the rest of the US, for that matter). People I knew from NYC and Chicago actually laughed out loud when locals compared the city to theirs. It's a nice enough place, but the idea that SF is the beating heart of the whole MSA is simply silly -- SF would have nothing but tourism and subsidiary finance if San Jose dried up.
This is a bit rich. Having lived in Chicago for years and now SF, Chicago is much more "provincial." It's a very insular town where most of the professional crowd is from the midwest or a Big 10 school--and white. SF has a much higher % of ppl from other places and aren't native to the Bay Area, and who are minorities.

NYC has a high % of outsiders and minorities too, but if any city sees itself as the center of the world and is oblivious to the rest of America...it's NYC
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Default I hate when people say "SF is a small city"

But it is!
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Comparing SF to e.g., Houston, NYC, Chicago, and LA isn't really fair. Those cities have much larger land area that include suburbs (or boroughs).
Exactly. It's built on a peninsula. That means it's surrounded on three sides by water. If they wanted to get into a "My ______ is bigger than your_____" battle with bigger cities, they could, but the new stuff would be under water. Which probably wouldn't work too well.
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