Is downtown Oakland safe? (San Francisco, Berkeley: neighborhood, restaurants, price)

[Finn_Cool]

DT Oakland isn't as dangerous as people make it out to be, but lol at people trying to call Oakland a Top 10 tourist destination. Any magazine who will claim that is straight up lying their ass off or got paid to print that, or they're combining Oakland and SF into one metro area.

DT Oakland is a great place for locals, like myself, to go and hang out with friends, get good food and alcohol, maybe catch some music, but you don't see people from overseas talking how they want to visit Oakland. They go for Los Angeles, San Francisco, Miami, or New York.

People in DT Oakland can be friendly when you need help though. My old 1999 Sentra had a bad battery and I got stuck in DT Oakland near 15th and Franklin last Summer. I couldn't start it up, lights wouldn't come on, nothing. Some old black guy who was a parking lot attendant saw me struggling and he said he could give me a jump with his truck. He removed some caps on my battery and said you need to change the water out once in a while, something I didn't know. So he got his bottled water and replace the water in the battery, and then he got his cables and jumped my car. It lasted all the way to the Richmond in SF, and I was able to get a new battery on Geary. Good guy, I hope he's doing alright.

[04kL4nD]

For a local Oaklander, you seem to be pretty hard on 1/5th of the city. Most Oaklanders have a lot more empathy/compassion and tend to have a more live and let live attitude. Your comments about West Oakland in the other thread deserving a tsunami were pretty disgusting.

[ssmaster]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/tr...0&pagewanted=2

Oakland made the New York Times list for places to go in 2012 between London and Tokyo. This was based on the incredible dining scene that has developed with the Michelin starred coi spin offs like haven and plum,the chez panisse alumni at camino piziallo and boot and shoe service ,the Michellen starred commis. There are many other superb places to dine in oakland

I don't enjoy going on vacations as much because usually the quality of food does not match oakland.last time I was in Maui I really noticed this
If you are not a foody this may not mean anything but if you are oakland is nationally known for its dining scene

[Finn_Cool]

Okay I see. That article is more about the author's opinion on where people should go, not actually where people go based on tourism numbers. Now it makes sense.

[Finn_Cool]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

For a local Oaklander, you seem to be pretty hard on 1/5th of the city. Most Oaklanders have a lot more empathy/compassion and tend to have a more live and let live attitude. Your comments about West Oakland in the other thread deserving a tsunami were pretty disgusting.

If you have so much compassion for West Oakland, why don't you move back there? Ditch JLS and move right into the Bottoms and share your love and care with the people there.

I love how people like this guy get so offended that some locals don't like West Oakland or its ghetto counterparts in East Oakland, but couldn't wait to move out the first chance they get to a nicer area. lol

[04kL4nD]

As I said earlier, I moved out of West Oakland for numerous reasons, mostly because I was tired of roommates and I wanted to be somewhere more walkable, and I can afford to live somewhere nicer since I'm done with grad school. I still hang out in West Oakland all the time. If you haven't been to a West Oakland backyard BBQ or house party, you really don't know what you're missing. Unlike you, I don't look down on people who live in West Oakland. Why would I? I spent 5 years of my life there and it was my home. It still feels that way. Sad that you lack so much compassion for people who have less than you or choose to live in a place that's cheaper, but has a rich social community. Nope, you don't sound like a typical Oaklander at all. In fact, I doubt you even live here.

[Finn_Cool]

Thanks, I'll take your word about West Oakland house parties. I don't own a bullet proof vest, and I'm not an expert in small arms tactics, so I probably wouldn't feel safe.

[Obamadon1]

Originally Posted by Finn_Cool

If you have so much compassion for West Oakland, why don't you move back there? Ditch JLS and move right into the Bottoms and share your love and care with the people there.

I love how people like this guy get so offended that some locals don't like West Oakland or its ghetto counterparts in East Oakland, but couldn't wait to move out the first chance they get to a nicer area. lol

You're being stupid. People move for lots of reasons and just because they move from one place to the other doesn't mean the place they're leaving is a hellhole.

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by Finn_Cool

Thanks, I'll take your word about West Oakland house parties. I don't own a bullet proof vest, and I'm not an expert in small arms tactics, so I probably wouldn't feel safe.

I doubt anyone in West Oakland would invite you to one anyway. You seem like a real drag. In fact, I'd encourage you to continue avoiding the area altogether. Your nasty attitude could lead to unfortunate consequences. But you don't live in Oakland anyway, so this is a moot point.

[Finn_Cool]

Yes I have no friends who live in West Oakland, thank goodness. It would be really awkward for me to continually reject invitations to go out there for a party.