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Old 05-20-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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What wood does Australia use for RR ties?

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Point taken. Many plants can take huge impact in other ecosystems. I wasn't thinking....
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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I have. Actually more grown under the Eucalyptus then under Redwoods. However that too might be an issue if nothing is supposed to grow there. What's interesting is Redwoods can grown with Eucalyptus but the latter can't get started in a redwood grove.
A Redwood is not the same as an oak tree. Redwood forests are often bare of anything but the redwoods. Redwoods are also not known to burst into flames. Eucalyptus on the other hand is known for its flamability. Many plants grow and thrive under oaks and buckeyes. Deer eat the acorns and the new green leaves of oaks and they eat the large seeds of the buckeye. The eucalyptus does not feed the deer. It is not a beneficial plant for the Oakland hills.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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Pines are native to this area too. The whole area doesn't belong to just the ones you mentioned. If you know anything about ecosystems.
The pines that are in the Oakland hills are not native, they are Monterey pines. I know plenty about ecosystems, I used to walk a good part of the Oakland and Berkeley hills when I lived there. I am also a professional gardener and know more about plants than most people do.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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Note: Gentoo has previously stated that he doesn't like to find himself arguing with someone who is arguing in circles.


Does anyone know why the eucalyptus were planted in the hills in the first place?
The blue gum in particular was brought in because it was a tall tree that they thought could be used for telephone and telegraph poles. They did not know that the wood was very fragile and would crack and split, making them useless for poles.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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The blue gum in particular was brought in because it was a tall tree that they thought could be used for telephone and telegraph poles. They did not know that the wood was very fragile and would crack and split, making them useless for poles.
Well, that was smart, wasn't it, to not do the research before importing them and planting them?

Another seemingly bright idea, shot down in...um...

....flames
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:37 PM
 
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Blue gum is still used for making tool handles, fencing, flooring and furniture material (veneer). It's not a useless wood, just because it didn't succeed for telephone poles.

Some of the comments on this thread make me laugh
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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Blue gum is still used for making tool handles, fencing, flooring and furniture material (veneer). It's not a useless wood, just because it didn't succeed for telephone poles.

Some of the comments on this thread make me laugh
Where do they harvest it for all that? Nobody's culling any from the East Bay.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:35 PM
 
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Where do they harvest it for all that? Nobody's culling any from the East Bay.
Let me google that for you
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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What wood does Australia use for RR ties?

Don't know but it obviously isn't Eucalyptus globulus
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