After one week of living in Oakland someone tried to mug me (San Jose: low income, real estate)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

With Oakland, it's one or two neighborhoods you are supposedly safe in.

Please stop talking(I cringed for you), this^ is hideously inaccurate and only illustrates the incorrect opinion that people right here in the bay area have regarding Oakland-unbelievable.

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

Santa Clara has NEVER been seen as a suburb of San Jose.

Santa Clara is not a suburb but it is suburban---otherwise youre saying it's urban.

[Davachka]

[quote=18Montclair;31211425]Please stop talking(I cringed for you), this^ is hideously inaccurate and only illustrates the incorrect opinion that people right here in the bay area have regarding Oakland-unbelievable.

With the amount of million dollar homes, upscale restaurants and bars, etc., I do not know how anyone could think an ENTIRE city could possibly be dangerous. Sheer ignorance. But considering this is a forum to help educate others those with out that knowledge should stay off. There are plenty of safe neighborhoods in Oakland and not just the Oakland hills, Montclair, and Piedmont. Rockridge/Claremont, Temescal, Lake Merritt, Uptown and lots of West Oakland are areas I frequent and feel perfectly safe, just stay smart as you would anywhere else.

[wave9x]

Originally Posted by Davachka

Uptown and lots of West Oakland are areas I frequent and feel perfectly safe, just stay smart as you would anywhere else.

In other cities, you don't need to "stay smart" in order to be safe. Perhaps you have lived in Oakland too long if you feel this is necessary everywhere. What do you mean by that anyway? Head down, no eye contact, walk quickly, hand on bottle of mace in pocket?

[04kL4nD]

Perhaps you don't get to other cities like Chicago, LA, Miami, anywhere in NYC outside of Manhattan, DC, or Philadelphia much. Smarts smarts are REQUIRED in a lot of areas.

You're really delusional if you don't think streets smarts are required in SF either. The term 'apple picking' was coined in SF for God's sake.

[Stephen1110]

Originally Posted by wave9x

In other cities, you don't need to "stay smart" in order to be safe. Perhaps you have lived in Oakland too long if you feel this is necessary everywhere. What do you mean by that anyway? Head down, no eye contact, walk quickly, hand on bottle of mace in pocket?

you said in other cities you don't need to "stay smart" in order to be safe. The lie detector determined that was a lie.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by wave9x

In other cities, you don't need to "stay smart" in order to be safe. Perhaps you have lived in Oakland too long if you feel this is necessary everywhere. What do you mean by that anyway? Head down, no eye contact, walk quickly, hand on bottle of mace in pocket?

Most cities you need to stay smart. This means avoiding walking on deserted streets alone at night, putting your cell phone away when walking and being present and aware.

You can say hi to people, smile, and walk at your normal pace.

These are basic skills needed whether you go to Oakland, SF, London, Paris or Amsterdam.


On an autocorrecting iDevice.

[dragontales]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

I've heard A LOT of provincial statements on this board, usually about SF, but the one about Santa Clara not being a suburb of San Jose takes the cake. Are you for real? LOL

At any rate, this thread is about OAKLAND, not San Jose or Santa Clara.

And no, the entire city of Oakland is NOT perfectly safe and free from crime. A good portion of it is dangerous and should be avoided! Nobody on this board ever denies that there are serious issues with crime in the city. All we've said is that for a lot of us, crime has zero impact on our lives because we live in neighborhoods where we don't fear for our safety. Safety is a perception people. You can be a victim of crime pretty much anywhere if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. For whatever reason, some posters on City Data live in some binary universe where things are black and white. And it's really tired.

Can the mods create a sticky for those interested in moving to Oakland? Maybe one that lists areas that are safe and have low crime stats and a list of no-go areas?

Are you serious? You think Santa Clara is still a suburb of SJ? I like how you said San Jose with that sarcastic, annoyed, and defensive emoticon and yet you are wrong about it.

[04kL4nD]

You're right. Santa Clara isn't a part of the San Jose metro area, it's the other way around! Santa Clara is the much bigger, more populated city that dominates over the entire South Bay. Give me a break.

[dragontales]

Nobody said anything about the other way around. SC isn't a suburb of SJ. SJ isn't a suburb of SC. Santa Clara stands as a city by itself and is part of Silicon Valley. What don't you get?

What break? You are not correct.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by dragontales

Nobody said anything about the other way around. SC isn't a suburb of SJ. SJ isn't a suburb of SC. Santa Clara stands as a city by itself and is part of Silicon Valley. What don't you get?

What break? You are not correct.

Almost all the people I know who live in Santa Clara work outside of SC. Only one actually works in SC. Everyone else works in various parts of the South Bay and Peninsula.


I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.