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Old 02-02-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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Many San Francisco "techies" are not really "techies" anyway: new wave of Web based startups are not really high-tech.
Also, being a programmer myself, I, surprisingly, do not like "techies": many, many people with CS degree have serious problems in the department of history, art and literature, which makes them unable to understand social consequences of their decisions and insensitive in general. I worked with brilliant developers yet one of them thought that Yugoslavia was part of USSR, another thought that Nazi swastika is a derivative of Christian cross, third did not know who is Susan Sarandon - and you expect these people to care about schools for poor and side effects of gentrification?
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Cuz all people who work in tech are the same just like all black people, gay people, teachers etc are the same, right?
I get stereotyped on the forums as not working in tech quite often, and I have done tech marketing in one way or another for my whole career.

The people generally being chastised as techies tend to have the same point if view. The vast majority grew up in middle class households with educated middle class parents and attended good colleges. That is basically the definition of a single point if view, even if there are shades of grey.

Combine this with the fact we are rally class segregated and the fact people rarely meet people outside if their social class, you have a recipe for disaster.

The average "techie" spends all if their time interacting with other well educated well paid people. And never even see people outside of that circumstance. That causes the tension,and if the main reason San Francisco has changed so much over the past 15 years. The "other" people got pushed out.

As much as I love getting fancy cocktails, 3rd wave coffee and locally sources food, today's mission district us far blander than the one of the mid-90s. And this ha sprinkled across all of SF.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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I get stereotyped on the forums as not working in tech quite often, and I have done tech marketing in one way or another for my whole career.

The people generally being chastised as techies tend to have the same point if view. The vast majority grew up in middle class households with educated middle class parents and attended good colleges. That is basically the definition of a single point if view, even if there are shades of grey.

Combine this with the fact we are rally class segregated and the fact people rarely meet people outside if their social class, you have a recipe for disaster.

The average "techie" spends all if their time interacting with other well educated well paid people. And never even see people outside of that circumstance. That causes the tension,and if the main reason San Francisco has changed so much over the past 15 years. The "other" people got pushed out.

As much as I love getting fancy cocktails, 3rd wave coffee and locally sources food, today's mission district us far blander than the one of the mid-90s. And this ha sprinkled across all of SF.
This is what I was worried about. If I move to the city, I *would* like to get involved and meet people from all walks of life, but honestly probably wouldn't. I know some "techies" who moved from the south bay to SF (most of them in their mid-to-late 20s) and they seem to spend most of their time just partying with people who are the same income/education-level.

And yes the commute (2+ hours every day) is probably best to avoid....better to stay close to work.
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Old 02-03-2014, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Move to SF if you feel compelled to live in a city. You aren't likely to meet many non peers unless you decide to befriend people that work in the service industry. Who likely live in Oakland anyway.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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The backlash against "techies" is really just people in our region realizing how unjust suburbanization is for the poor and lower-middle class.

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Old 02-03-2014, 02:45 AM
 
Location: US
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I'm sure they would find someone or something (poor class) to blame even if they lived on their own private island.

It's important to remember that the people who hate techies, whites (even though most techies aren't white) and successful people are a very small part of society, in fact, I haven't met anyone in real life that feels the way portrayed on city-data or on sfgate yet.

However, their "i dont give a ____" attitude makes me start to think, okay well I don't give a _____ about those who can no longer afford a place. Before, I had sympathy, but the more I hear about these idiots in the news and here, just makes me say, okay good riddance.

It's sad to think that society would be better if it were split by class, religion and race. Oh well... tomorrow I'll be back in realilty and these extreme thoughts will be gone because at least for now the views of some portrayed here and on the news are a very very very small minority.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:58 AM
 
Location: San Leandro
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As someone who works for a tech company in eville, from what I observe, its got more to do with the tech indusrty being filled with narcissists.

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Old 02-03-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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Do people hate "techies"?
If you have to ask, the answer is probably at least "sometimes".

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The people generally being chastised as techies tend to have the same point if view. The vast majority grew up in middle class households with educated middle class parents and attended good colleges. That is basically the definition of a single point if view, even if there are shades of grey.

Combine this with the fact we are rally class segregated and the fact people rarely meet people outside if their social class, you have a recipe for disaster.

The average "techie" spends all if their time interacting with other well educated well paid people. And never even see people outside of that circumstance. That causes the tension,and if the main reason San Francisco has changed so much over the past 15 years. The "other" people got pushed out.

As much as I love getting fancy cocktails, 3rd wave coffee and locally sources food, today's mission district us far blander than the one of the mid-90s. And this ha sprinkled across all of SF.
Dear, you're generalizing. I lived in San Francisco as a 21 year old(computer engineering) as a part of a tech company. My parents were not middle class, they did not go to college. I was born, and grew up broke. I used to be part of punk subculture ( I still have that DIY, self-employment idea going...., maybe someday). I think I would never go out and buy a fancy cocktail and such as you have said. I also interact with people of all social classes (but more frequently working class people).
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: oakland / berkeley
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The people who are being priced out of SF hates techies. Everyone else loves techies. Especially landlords. They love techies the most.

(Note: I write software. I don't know if that makes me a techie.)
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Old 02-03-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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If you have to ask, the answer is probably at least "sometimes".


Dear, you're generalizing. I lived in San Francisco as a 21 year old(computer engineering) as a part of a tech company. My parents were not middle class, they did not go to college. I was born, and grew up broke. I used to be part of punk subculture ( I still have that DIY, self-employment idea going...., maybe someday). I think I would never go out and buy a fancy cocktail and such as you have said. I also interact with people of all social classes (but more frequently working class people).
You are very very rare. Most of your fellow "techies" are middle class/educated parents. I am very well aware of this fact. I can likely count on one hand all of the people I have worked with over the years (in tech) who didn't meet this profile. Maybe 2 hands. Was just talking to a coworker about this last week.

Not all "techies" like fancy cocktails. That is obviously generalizing, but most have enough disposable income to get nice stuff/live the good life/not interact with people that are "have nots."
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