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Old 02-10-2014, 01:49 AM
 
Location: oakland / berkeley
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No, but I do think a Union Square that is closed down to car traffic with pedestrians able to walk more freely through the streets would attract more people. I hate how the sidewalks are so congested there and the cars idling in traffic pump their fumes into the air. I avoid Union Square as much as possible because of this. I only go to the Westfield Mall on Market St. if anything since it is a more pleasant atmosphere.
Agreed. Cars and people should mix as little as possible.
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:49 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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No, but I do think a Union Square that is closed down to car traffic with pedestrians able to walk more freely through the streets would attract more people. I hate how the sidewalks are so congested there and the cars idling in traffic pump their fumes into the air. I avoid Union Square as much as possible because of this. I only go to the Westfield Mall on Market St. if anything since it is a more pleasant atmosphere.
Maybe they could do that on Sundays, like they do with Golden Gate Park. Close it to car traffic.
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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That's not the point, though. What I was trying to get at is why, even though both are a sort of breeding grounds for American consumerism, advertisements in Times Square are digital and everywhere, while in Union Square (where people spend $$$ for overpriced clothes) ads are limited to a few billboards. It's much more than San Francisco not being New York. Yonge-Dundas Square in Toronto isn't in New York, but it still reminds people of Times Square. Then there's places like Ginza, Shinjuku, and Shibuya in Tokyo, and everywhere there is plastered in neon lights and signs and screens. I was just wondering our dense city doesn't have any equivalent to that.
The square itself is essentially a city park, and SF is not big on putting up giant advertisements in its parks. As for the building facades, I think that the owners/anchor tenants of those buildings are the big reason. On the square itself, you have Tiffany & Co., Saks, Macy's, Neiman Marcus, formerly Levi's (soon to be Apple), Gucci, Johnston & Murphy, Westin St. Francis, Weinstein Gallery, Bulgari, Dior (coming soon), and Arthur Beren. Given these tenants/owners, I think it is pretty understandable that the advertising is a little more staid on Union Square than it is in Times Square.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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Plus Union Square is SQUARE not some place where a couple of streets meet.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:23 PM
 
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Plus Union Square is SQUARE not some place where a couple of streets meet.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Times Square is not a square, but instead a glorified intersection surrounded by unremarkable buildings. Union Square is a park that is surrounded by some quite beautiful and historic buildings. What works in one space probably wouldn't in the other.
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:27 PM
 
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Something tells me you don't get SF man. Over-commercialization is the exact opposite of what the vast majority of SF residents want from a city. Ditto for a place like Paris.
Paris actually has a ton of advertising, billboards and the like. Ever been to Pigalle?

The thread question is an odd one. Union Square isn't the SF equivalent of Times Square (or Piccadilly Circus, or Shibuya). Union Square is the primary shopping zone for SF. The NYC equivalent would be Madison Ave, Fifth Ave, SoHo, and the like. If you have to draw a parallel with a plaza/crossroads in NYC, probably Union Square or Madison Square would be good equivalents.
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:30 PM
 
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Times Square is not a square, but instead a glorified intersection surrounded by unremarkable buildings. Union Square is a park that is surrounded by some quite beautiful and historic buildings. What works in one space probably wouldn't in the other.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think most people would say that Times Square has far, far more impressive buildings and architecture than Union Square in SF.

Most of the buildings directly fronting Union Square are quite banal (see Saks, Macys, Neiman Marcus, Levis, etc.) and some of the postwar hotel/office buildings just off Union Square range from mediocre to horrific.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think most people would say that Times Square has far, far more impressive buildings and architecture than Union Square in SF.
Well as far as highrises, perhaps, but as far as street level architecture and buildings, Union Square by far is more memorable as far as actual buildings and architecture. By contrast, Times Square at street level is a visual overdose of electronic signs and huge billboards and that's all you see. Buildings and architecture are an afterthought at street level, which isn't a bad thing, it just is.
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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I for one am glad not to run into Elmo in Union Square.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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Special sign district on SF
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