SPUR Report on how the Bay Area should grow smartly

[jade408]

Originally Posted by fred9

City Systems

That is terrible.

[Ceece]

You will never do will with "low/no parking" apartments. When people can't leave they sit and rot and so do the neighborhoods and buildings.

We aren't building something entirely new, the Bay Area is already here. These things need to FIT THE AREA. They will never change it.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by Ceece

You will never do will with "low/no parking" apartments. When people can't leave they sit and rot and so do the neighborhoods and buildings.

We aren't building something entirely new, the Bay Area is already here. These things need to FIT THE AREA. They will never change it.

Um if you put low or no parking buildings where stuff is in walking distance and transit is available people will use their cars less. Some will forgo it all together. Not every building should be no parking. Many buildings should uncouple the parking and sell the spaces separately. Most buildings in sf should remove or decouple the parking. Many in Oakland and Berkeley should do the same.

Low parking isn't all that low around here. Typically 1.5 spaces per unit.

[CirclingLogan]

Originally Posted by Ceece

You will never do will with "low/no parking" apartments. When people can't leave they sit and rot and so do the neighborhoods and buildings.

We aren't building something entirely new, the Bay Area is already here. These things need to FIT THE AREA. They will never change it.

I don't even know what this means.

Most apartment buildings in Manhattan don't have parking spaces. I don't see much rotting there.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by CirclingLogan

I don't even know what this means.

Most apartment buildings in Manhattan don't have parking spaces. I don't see much rotting there.

This isn't Manhattan. That's what I'm saying. We are not building from scratch here, the Bay Area EXISTS AS IT IS, and we are adding housing to it that have to deal with the current stuff. It will never be Manhattan. And Manhattan isn't affordable, which is the whole point of doing this.

[Obamadon1]

Originally Posted by Ceece

And Manhattan isn't affordable, which is the whole point of doing this.

That Manhattan is dense and expensive does not mean that it would not be more expensive if they made it harder still to add housing supply. It's expensive because a lot more people want to live there than there is housing for.