Hating On The Tech Industry?

[Motion]

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Oh I changed the question in my post

[Pietro25]

Originally Posted by Deezus

Gentrification of the Mission started a while ago back in the 90s, this isn't new, it's just the apex of a trend. The people who are getting really mad about the latest round of gentrification are really the people who were the previous gentrifiers. To the Hispanic residents of the Mission who've been slowly priced out for fifteen years, I doubt they give a damn to make the distinction whether it's artists/hipsters or tech-workers who are gentrifying their neighborhood and raising prices.

Deezus sums it up very nicely. There's something odd about college-educated white people complaining about college-educated white people who are a bit more educated than themselves. You wonder what the old blue-collar Irish who lived in the Mission and Noe Valley would make of all this.

That said, it's spooky to see the Google buses crowding the streets of my neighborhood. They look like alien space ships and make too much noise.

I suspect this problem will be solved when the next tech bubble bursts. Or when 280 and 101 get so crowded you won't care to travel on them even in the comforts of a Google bus.

[midnightfapper]

tech nerds ruined san francisco, it used to be a cool city until those lames showed up.

[3243]

Originally Posted by Pietro25

That said, it's spooky to see the Google buses crowding the streets of my neighborhood. They look like alien space ships and make too much noise.

I suspect this problem will be solved when the next tech bubble bursts. Or when 280 and 101 get so crowded you won't care to travel on them even in the comforts of a Google bus.

Now you know how the hippies felt when the Gray Line tour buses started driving through the Haight en masse in the summer of 1967.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by 3243

Now you know how the hippies felt when the Gray Line tour buses started driving through the Haight en masse in the summer of 1967.

Kind of. Except those curious tourists weren't filling up the apartments and houses in the Haight.

[lrmsd]

Originally Posted by ambient

I am really hoping that we can find a way to merge this topic with a discussion of crime levels in Oakland.

LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

[lrmsd]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

let's add in cheap/safe housing in a desirable area of SF for the trifecta of asinine topics!

ha ha. You guys are crackin' me up today. Hilarious.

[lrmsd]

Originally Posted by Deezus

All my middle-class to upper middle-class income friends moved out of San Francisco years ago because it was too damn expensive, though we're expected to believe that the poorer working class residents of San Francisco would be able to survive for the longterm if it wasn't for all those Google employees flocking to the city.

Gentrification of the Mission started a while ago back in the 90s, this isn't new, it's just the apex of a trend. The people who are getting really mad about the latest round of gentrification are really the people who were the previous gentrifiers. To the Hispanic residents of the Mission who've been slowly priced out for fifteen years, I doubt they give a damn to make the distinction whether it's artists/hipsters or tech-workers who are gentrifying their neighborhood and raising prices.

The 'gentrification of the 90's, in the Mission, was more artists and not uber monied influence. Hipster trendy was a distant NYC trait, not a country wide, near pop culture level of popularity. And, the hipster, eco friendly, organic and foodie 'movements' lol, I mean consumer lifestyles, weren't an official thing-meaning they were not solely about the $$$$, but were based in original bay area concepts like farm to table, valuing originality for its own sake and being off beat, also for its own sake. My .02. I lived there in the 90's, now I just visit. In the 90's, there were plenty of salvadoran, mexican and other restaurants in the mission, many replete with armed security guard. Don't worry, it was still the mission then. lol. Anyway, rent control means prices were not getting higher for the lower income that you mention-they were not buying real estate then.
I love how people defend entire groups of people they don't know, by default making said group of people victims. Were people in the mission sitting around analyzing and freaking out over the changes that happened over a period of time? It's not like it was a stagnant area-my friend was born and raised in SF, when it was irish catholic. She picked figs off her tree and there was nary a burrito in sight. She and her siblings, etc no longer lived there. But guess what? She had chosen to move on and it wasn't just b/c the costs when up. People who migrated to an area in recent decades are not necessarily going to stay there for hundreds or thousands of years. It's not like they remain in one spot and make no changes, en masse as a 'group of people', as though they are one entity. It's dynamic from all sides.

Italian and Irish immigrants were just as broke for the most part, as current immigrant groups. And looked down upon, too. Is anyone (ie, Italians who grew up there) pi*sed that north beach is mainly just a few italian restaurants in name only now? They probably viewed it as a pit stop along the way to wherever else life would take them. Then again, it's best not to assume....but just throwing out a few additional scenarios to the ones most people describe about gentrification. Arguing to preserve social strata is a pretty interesting trend. We must keep these people in relative poverty or they may end up in worse poverty.