How do YOU afford living comfortably in San Francisco? (Mountain View: subsidized, living in)

[LookingForAChange]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

Median earnings for males in sf is $68,815 for females in sf $55,784 per the U.S. Census bureau . $3000 in rent is too much for these salaries

San Francisco has the highest number of female sex workers per capita in the U.S., I bet those statistics don't include their annual salaries.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by AnthonyJ34

I have nothing against city life, and nothing against San Francisco. But if I were to live there, and if I had to share a living space with someone, I would want my own bathroom and shower. None of that communal stuff!

Why, dude? That just makes it more expensive for no reason. Sure, take it if available, but you really only need the bedroom to yourself.

Just be glad you don't have to take "submarine showers" (military showers). That's turn the water on for 1 second, turn it off, lather the soap on, turn the water on for 1 second to rinse, done. You're motivated to have the water on for a small amount of time because the water is only heated to like 70 degrees on the boat (and there's no temperature adjustment). Assuming the Captain has not ordered the showers disabled because we are using too much water (iirc on my first boat we needed to keep it under 5000 gallons per 24 hour period for 120 people).

Don't worry, for safety reasons s/he will only do that for short periods of time. You'd be much more worried about lack of sleep. I personally have stayed awake for 4 days doing "operations"...24 or 48 hours was typical. If your performance was bad sometimes your superior would say "it's going to start affecting your sleep", you don't want to hear that, lol.

These are "first world problems" dude.

But with SF rents being what they are, I understand why so many SF residents have roommates. I mean, $1700 for a tiny studio in the Tenderloin? LOL! That's comedy.

That's the free market (in SF, distorted by rent control, but I digress). People live with roommates all over the world in all major cities. If you make 5100 a month, you can afford $1700 for rent. That's only $61,200 a year. Lots of electricians make that. They don't need a bachelor's, just high school. If you have a "professional" job (requiring a degree, especially STEM jobs), you probably make more. If you can't afford, you share.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

These are "first world problems" dude.

Yes indeed. No end to the blurred "needs vs. wants" stuff in here.

[comingbacktocali]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

These are "first world problems" dude.

well, this is a first world country... i am not sure why somebody's preference to have a private bathroom (aside from sharing with a partner) bothers you so much.

i don't want to share a bathroom with anybody either. but then again, i live in one of those monolithic single family homes you like so much.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by comingbacktocali

well, this is a first world country... i am not sure why somebody's preference to have a private bathroom (aside from sharing with a partner) bothers you so much.

i don't want to share a bathroom with anybody either. but then again, i live in one of those monolithic single family homes you like so much.

Sometimes, people need to share, especially in a high-demand place. Kids know this. Why don't the adults?

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by comingbacktocali

well, this is a first world country... i am not sure why somebody's preference to have a private bathroom (aside from sharing with a partner) bothers you so much.

It is just that, a preference. If you can afford a place that offers that, great. But you're not living in poverty if you can't afford it.

i don't want to share a bathroom with anybody either. but then again, i live in one of those monolithic single family homes you like so much.

Again, if you can afford it, great. But not being able to afford it doesn't mean you live in poverty.

[3rdGen SFan]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

lol the hygenic practices would have to be awfully questionable before this became a concern.

When I say roommates are awesome, I assume you find people you like living with, and will move until you find such a place. Somebody who lives with roommates needs to be capable of being nomadic.

Yeah, service on USN submarines taught me a lot about living with other people. But of course that was a situation where I wasn't necessarily friends with most of the guys. Assuming you find a group of people you like to live with then roommates are awesome, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Then again you're probably right that if you're someone who really wants to be isolated in a house somewhere and not interact much with others outside of the house then city life probably isn't for such a person.

I have to agree with Anthony because some people don't clean the bathtub or shower floor after themselves, and that's gross & inconsideration toward others who share the same bathroom. Some people have athlete's foot, nail fungi, candida, etc. which can be passed to other people and which is why it's important to have a bathtub & shower floor cleaned between each person (however, if I had to share a bathroom, I'd still clean the bathtub or shower with Comet or Ajax before using it to be sure it's clean & disinfected).

Some housemates are also lazy and leave dirty dishes in sinks. At some of my friends places, they had gross sinks full of dirty dishes because they were lazy, and two of those places had roaches! I may not be a regular bather like most people, but I don't understand how some people don't care about cleanliness so as to not attract bugs and to not have mold growing in the sink.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by 3rdGen SFan

I have to agree with Anthony because some people don't clean the bathtub or shower floor after themselves, and that's gross & inconsideration toward others who share the same bathroom.

Yes, people should clean the shower after use. Permission granted to find a place with roommates you think have acceptable hygeine. Common sense there.

Some people have athlete's foot, nail fungi, candida, etc. which can be passed to other people and which is why it's important to have a bathtub & shower floor cleaned between each person

In theory, yes, those things can be passed to other people. In practice, as long as you dry it off you're reasonably safe.

We didn't disinfect the showers after each use on nuclear submarines and we got by ok. We just used a "squegee" (like what you use to dry off your windows when you're washing your car) to dry out the shower after using it.

(however, if I had to share a bathroom, I'd still clean the bathtub or shower with Comet or Ajax before using it to be sure it's clean & disinfected).

lmao please, dude.

Again...if you can afford a place with your bathroom and no roommates, more power to you. However, sharing a bathroom is NOT living in poverty. That's lame.

[3rdGen SFan]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

lmao please, dude.

Again...if you can afford a place with your bathroom and no roommates, more power to you. However, sharing a bathroom is NOT living in poverty. That's lame.

I didn't even say it was! My point was that I wouldn't expect someone else to make as much of an effort to clean & disinfect a bathtub or shower floor after they use it. Before use, maybe.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by 3rdGen SFan

I didn't even say it was! My point was that I wouldn't expect someone else to make as much of an effort to clean & disinfect a bathtub or shower floor after they use it. Before use, maybe.

Yeah and it doesn't mean you're going to contract a deadly disease and die.

In practice, as long as it is dry, you are reasonably safe.