Is the Monument BLVD/Detroit AVE area in Concord the Mission District of the Bay's Suburbs? (San Francisco: upper-class, rent)

[PixelatedTherapy]

I've always thought of it that way. What's your take?

[ketch89]

The proper question/title for this thread is, "Is the Monument Boulevard/Detroit Ave area in Concord the Fruitvale District of the Bay's suburbs?". The Mission is a wealthy enclave where there still happens to be a significant number of low-income latinos who get by on rent control or in BMR housing. Mark Zuckerberg lives 5 blocks from 24th st bart. The Fruitvale, on the other hand, is a 75% Latino neighborhood where the vast majority of residents are still low-income immigrants (though one of my professors at SF State recently bought a home there, sign of the times perhaps...). There is absolutely no comparison between the Mission and anywhere in Concord.

[PixelatedTherapy]

Originally Posted by ketch89

The proper question/title for this thread is, "Is the Monument Boulevard/Detroit Ave area in Concord the Fruitvale District of the Bay's suburbs?". The Mission is a wealthy enclave where there still happens to be a significant number of low-income latinos who get by on rent control or in BMR housing. Mark Zuckerberg lives 5 blocks from 24th st bart. The Fruitvale, on the other hand, is a 75% Latino neighborhood where the vast majority of residents are still low-income immigrants (though one of my professors at SF State recently bought a home there, sign of the times perhaps...). There is absolutely no comparison between the Mission and anywhere in Concord.

I was kinda thinking pre-gentrification Mission. My mother is from the Mission District. As a child she took me to the Mission often. My mother is White and she talks about back during her day she was one of a few. In her words: "Now the area is filled with yuppies spending their daddy's money."

[NOLA101]

Originally Posted by ketch89

T The Mission is a wealthy enclave where there still happens to be a significant number of low-income latinos who get by on rent control or in BMR housing.

The Mission is hardly a wealthy enclave, LOL. Pacific Heights is wealthy, Mission, no way. Median incomes are well below city and metro medians.

Yes, there are wealthy techies on the fringes of the Mission, but the neighborhood remains by and large working class Hispanic, and is still quite gritty. Dolores Park area has tons of expensive homes but that isn't typical for the Mission (and that's barely even the Mission).

[ketch89]

You're right, wealthy was exaggerating. Upper-class would be more accurate. 2-bed condos in the Mission sell for an average of $1.05m, 1 bedroom flats rent for an average of $3700 as of this month. Only half of the census tracts in the Mission are still slightly above 50% hispanic, those being the tracts surrounding 24th street. The neighborhood may be what it is right now, but those on the lower end of the income spectrum have a tenuous grip.

[Bisaro TMF]

Not even close, the history in the mission district brings tourists. There is nothing iconic or scenic worthy of Monument. There is also nothing to do over there. The Mission is Vibrant.

[PixelatedTherapy]

Originally Posted by Bisaro TMF

Not even close, the history in the mission district brings tourists. There is nothing iconic or scenic worthy of Monument. There is also nothing to do over there. The Mission is Vibrant.

There's history in every neighborhood. San Francisco has just become adept at selling that history. I've even heard about San Francisco doing "gritty urban" bus tours through the Tenderloin.

[Bisaro TMF]

Originally Posted by PixelatedTherapy

There's history in every neighborhood. San Francisco has just become adept at selling that history. I've even heard about San Francisco doing "gritty urban" bus tours through the Tenderloin.

The reality is the only comparison between both area's is they are heavily Hispanic. That's where it ends.

[ladytee504]

No, have not had to step over urine or feces on the streets of Concord, and surely the rents are far different. But both areas have a lot of Latinos, if that's what you mean?

[PixelatedTherapy]

Basically I was saying it's a heavily working class Latino community with great restaurants, but seem to be a bit misunderstood.