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Old 07-02-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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There are other ways to getting a good apt in SF.
Really? Would you mind sharing what those other ways are? Because I'd bet there's at least 100,000 other people living in less than ideal places in SF who would love to know, too.
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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OP
Here is one apt in the Inner Richmond:
Clean & bright 1 bdrm 1 ba apartment on top floor

Here is another more toward the Outer Richmond.....size might be marginal for you though
***Renovated Jr. One Bedrm, Great Location!

Here is a larger sized apt in Outer Richmond
3910 Fulton Street, #7

OP, like a number of cities in NJ & NJ San Francisco has rent control (not all rentals are covered) although you will have to pay what the owner is asking to move in (usually current market rate) future, annual, rent increases are subject to the rent control ordinance and hence likely very modest, very often less then 2%
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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OP with all due respect it seems you are only interested in hearing the positives that tip the scale in favor of relocating, and not considering any negatives people are bringing up. I know someone who has been financially ruined despite "thinking" he had the earnings to cover all the costs of living in SF but the reality of daily living proved otherwise. His nest egg for retirement has been wiped out and he's not a big spender generally although his one fatal flaw was insisting on living in SF proper.

So, just don't be so ready to dismiss the comments from residents who don't paint a rosy picture.
Im not dismissing the comment of the nay sayers. I hear them. I also know, there are people living in SF rich, poor, in the middle. I also know if there is a will there is a way. All of the commenters I assume live in SF, and some how made it work. Thank you for your comment.
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Really? Would you mind sharing what those other ways are? Because I'd bet there's at least 100,000 other people living in less than ideal places in SF who would love to know, too.
And when I do I will change for the information. People have to be smart about moving and relocating. It's not easy for sure. But, its not impossible.
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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Optimistic bright eyed transplants make me shake my head, although watching them crash and burn is entertaining.
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Old 07-02-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto, CA
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Im not dismissing the comment of the nay sayers. I hear them. I also know, there are people living in SF rich, poor, in the middle. I also know if there is a will there is a way. All of the commenters I assume live in SF, and some how made it work. Thank you for your comment.
Your determination is great! And totally necessary. (Still don't think it's smart to move here at all, esp SF, though.) A few additional things:

FYI, those poor and in the middle in SF - they are almost entirely grandfathered in; they got in before the boom of the last 5 years. They don't move in now. Rent control or being lucky enough to buy a long time ago is how they stay.

You absolutely can make it in SF if you can earn 130k and don't have kids. You could probably do it on 100k. But "making it" means living like you're making 45, 50k a year in NJ. I don't think that's an exaggeration.

You should know that SF and the region do not have public rail transit as extensive or frequent as NJ and NY. Your time costs will be higher - unless you get an apartment near your school. If you make this move to SF proper, I'd go for this.

You probably look at a map of SF and say, "hey, pretty good rail transit!" It's not. It's not frequent or reliable enough, and it's as crowded as the most crowded Manhattan subway line. Buses in SF are also slow and unreliable. You want to minimize distances within SF as much as possible.

You're wrong about finding an apartment - craigslist is the way. It is the universal source. The only other way is to find an illegal inlaw that never goes online (but will still command market rate) and make some landlord fall in love with you for whatever reason, and just put you to the front of the line. And charge you less? Not sure how you'll pull that off. I had a friend who had an inlaw in SF. They were going to offer it to me (before I moved out of the city). But it was going to be market rate. Couldn't ask any less of them.

You can do this, and sounds like you will do it. But unless you get some windfall, you will remember this conversation in 2, 3 or 5 years and think, "we really should have moved somewhere else, because I feel like we keep falling behind, and we've lost X years where we could have been saving real money."
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Old 07-02-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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Buses in SF are also slow and unreliable.
Where are buses not these?
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Old 07-02-2016, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Where are buses not these?
SF is extra bad and extra slow. It is almost always faster to walk many places. That's why people bike (or Uber). It is literally faster for me, in Oakland, to get to downtown SF, than in most SF neighborhoods over 3 miles from downtown. Even if I make it a multi leg trip with walking/bus/bike/train.
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Old 07-02-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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It really depends a lot on what neighborhood the bus line is going through, in terms of speed. I have lived in SF 27 years. So, I have a fair amount of experience with the public transit. OP, if you do move to the Outer Sunset Dist, being walking distance to either the N-Judah or L-Travel light rain line would be a plus....both lines will take you downtown. The N is rather a nice ride


https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/...May2016_75.pdf
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Old 07-02-2016, 05:01 PM
 
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SF is extra bad and extra slow. It is almost always faster to walk many places. That's why people bike (or Uber). It is literally faster for me, in Oakland, to get to downtown SF, than in most SF neighborhoods over 3 miles from downtown. Even if I make it a multi leg trip with walking/bus/bike/train.
The only bike id ride is a Schwinn stingray. At least I will look dignified
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