Why do so many people who live outside of the Bay Area come in here to trash talk the Bay Area? (San Francisco: neighborhood, salary)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by likealady

I could ask the same thing about why people from larger cities talk so much trash about the Midwest and South. So many people I've encountered in cities don't have favorable things to say about the "bible thumping" Midwest, and everyone in the South is like a Trump-loving, toothless shotgun-owning redneck apparently. The Northeast isn't free of hatred either. We just love to hate those who are different than us.

But those subforums arent innundated with out-of-town trolls like the SF forum.

[YoungTraveler2011]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Mainly right wing conservatives who have no other way to taunt people in the Bay Area with insults. I also sense a whole ton of resentment that the most "heavily taxed/liberal/communist/socialist"(lol) area of the country is also the wealthiest and most productive. They cant stand it

The CA forum is like that too. Tons of out of staters trolling with extreme anti-CA posting.

Yawns.

LOL if you think companies stay in CA due to its politics. You have an outstanding level of logic there, buddy.

People (and ultimately companies), stay here because of the weather and natural beauty.

If CA had Texas-like economic policies, it'd be 150% times better.

Also, CA alone gets about 367.8 billion yearly from the federal government.

just lol

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by ccm123

I think a lot of outsiders think the ultra-liberal politics are the problem.

Not just outsiders. Rather, everyone that isn't ultra-liberal.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by PixelatedTherapy

But I'm not talking about complaints. I'm talking about people saying things that are clearly untrue in order to misrepresent the Bay Area as terrible. I see that more often on this board than others. And I was wondering what was the reasoning behind this. I have illustrated this a countless amount of times now. It's similar to what you see on conservative media. Donald Trump will try and say we need to be tougher on undocumented immigrants because they commit a lot of crime, then he'll give two or three examples of this, which are rare, to characterize an entire group. .

Since you brought up "conservative media" and DT as an example, I feel the need to explain why its a defective one.

The "examples" you cited, or more to the point the analogies you're using them to support, aren't accurate.

It isn't necessarily that illegals are more criminal than citizens (although one can't escape the reality that they are ALL criminals, by virtue of their illegal entry/presence/fraud), but rather that the crimes they commit that victimize citizens couldn't have occurred at all had our laws been enforced and our border protected.

Get it now?

And the acknowledgment that they are all criminals is, in fact, one way "to characterize an entire group".

BTW, he also never said they were ALL murderers and rapists. Just that included in the millions are murderers and rapists. That isn't a lie, it isn't hyperbole. It's stone cold reality.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Mainly right wing conservatives who have no other way to taunt people in the Bay Area with insults. I also sense a whole ton of resentment that the most "heavily taxed/liberal/communist/socialist"(lol) area of the country is also the wealthiest and most productive. They cant stand it

Sure, you're referring to a tiny island in a vast sea of poverty and dysfunction though.



TRUE: California has the nation

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by YoungTraveler2011

Also, CA alone gets about 367.8 billion yearly from the federal government.

California alone pays about $400 billion yearly in federal taxes. More than any state by far.

So why do poor red states get to mooch off of $30 billion in CA money every year?

Just lol is right.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by YoungTraveler2011

LOL if you think companies stay in CA due to its politics. You have an outstanding level of logic there, buddy.

People (and ultimately companies), stay here because of the weather and natural beauty.

If CA had Texas-like economic policies, it'd be 150% times better.

Also, CA alone gets about 367.8 billion yearly from the federal government.

just lol

See^ what I mean?

LOL

[marcopolo666]

"Why do so many people who live outside of the Bay Area come in here to trash talk the Bay Area?"

Because it is the internet - trolls abound. People will post things that they would never say face-to-face.

[HockeyMac18]

Originally Posted by YoungTraveler2011

OP, San Francisco is worse than NYC. No offense. I've been there numerous times. (And have lived in Manhattan as well).

Literally everything there is garbage.

1. You can't have your own car because driving and parking is a nightmare. Especially parking AT YOUR OWN RENTAL/PROPERTY.
2. Public transportation is garbage. Metro doesn't take you everywhere so you have to walk or take the bus which is a nightmare. So at this point you can't have a car and drive and you can't take public transportation because it's garbage. So you're swimming in a sea of garbage. "Oh, I feel like eating Italian today! Let me go on a 45 minute adventure to get there!"
3. Talking about garbage, I can't tell which city has more disgusting streets & smells: NYC or SF.
4. Weather is garbage.
5. It's actually a very small city. It's like a little village compared to LA.
6. Prices for housing and what you get for it. Similar to LA but in LA you actually have numerous pluses whereas in SF you get nothing in return.
7. The people who live in SF are HIDEOUS. I've never seen an uglier group of people in my life with the exception of maybe Portland.
8. Too many "urban youths."
9. The food is mediocre. I've eaten at numerous restaurants all over America, especially Chicago, LA, NYC and SF. SF loses to all of them.
10. The mental disorder of the majority of people living there; see: liberal.

I'm sure I could go on but you get the idea.

There are legitimate criticisms of SF and the Bay Area - and then there is this. I believe this is an example of what the OP is talking about.

You sound like a great person to hang out with...

[HockeyMac18]

Originally Posted by YoungTraveler2011

LOL if you think companies stay in CA due to its politics. You have an outstanding level of logic there, buddy.

People (and ultimately companies), stay here because of the weather and natural beauty.

If CA had Texas-like economic policies, it'd be 150% times better.

Also, CA alone gets about 367.8 billion yearly from the federal government.

just lol

In the distant past, the Bay Area was pretty average, not all that different from most other regions in the US.

I'd argue most companies formed here first, and the people have followed for the jobs ever since (few people are moving for the weather, although it might sweeten the deal).

They might stay for the amenities (part of which is a critical mass of job opportunities in their field), but I think it's the companies (not the employees themselves) that have driven most of the recent bubbles.

And if you want to understand why they (the companies) are here in the first place, Stanford (and Cal, to a lesser extent) plays a large role. The history of Silicon Valley (and then the tech booms of the late 90's and now) is quite interesting to read about.

There's also the "critical mass" side of things, where companies (and employees) congregate here, self-perpetuating the belief that this is the place to be if you want to do tech.

A mixture of these factors keeps it all going, and I don't see it stopping anytime soon (sure, one company might leave...but that will change nothing about the underlying reasons why so many companies (and workers) are here to begin with).



One must wonder, though - if things really are as great as you say they are in Texas (or where ever else not the Bay Area), why haven't they all left for this prosperous place?