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Old 06-13-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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The Eastern Conference is much weaker then the Western Conference, and Lebron/ Cleveland is the beneficiary of that disparity. If you put the Cavs in the East, they wouldn't get passed GSW, SAS, HOU, or LAC, to say the least.
Again, I'll dis-agree with that.

Obviously the Warriors are a problem. I think they'd beat the Rockets no problem, and easily beat the Clippers. The Spurs would present a challenge, but again, I think the Cavs are better. I will agree the West is a better conference in terms of quality of teams.

The Cavs and Warriors are the 2 best teams, I have no hesitation saying this.

There is a reason the Cavs won last year... Also, the Heat out of the East were the beast to deal with a few year back, when GSW wasn't even a thing yet...
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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The Eastern Conference is much weaker then the Western Conference, and Lebron/ Cleveland is the beneficiary of that disparity. If you put the Cavs in the East, they wouldn't get passed GSW, SAS, HOU, or LAC, to say the least.
Now that's a stretch. Cavs would get past all those except maybe the Spurs. Lest you forget the Spurs being up 26 when Kawhi gets hurt. This is typical Warriors fan nonsense talk. Durant had a career series against the Cavs. I laugh when everyone says Cleveland has to break records to beat the Warriors. Well, Durant set career playoff records. Remember when he shot under 35% for at least one or two games when OKC was up 3-1 against the Warriors last year. Don't be a sore winner. They're a great team, THE BEST, hard to tell. Couldn't imagine anyone on the Warriors being able to stop Shaq though.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:48 PM
 
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I like it better in the NBA when the LA Lakers and Boston Celtics are the best teams but congrats to the Warriors on their season anyhow.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Sequoia Heights, Oakland, CA
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Now that's a stretch. Cavs would get past all those except maybe the Spurs. Lest you forget the Spurs being up 26 when Kawhi gets hurt. This is typical Warriors fan nonsense talk. Durant had a career series against the Cavs. I laugh when everyone says Cleveland has to break records to beat the Warriors. Well, Durant set career playoff records. Remember when he shot under 35% for at least one or two games when OKC was up 3-1 against the Warriors last year. Don't be a sore winner. They're a great team, THE BEST, hard to tell. Couldn't imagine anyone on the Warriors being able to stop Shaq though.
The Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, and Clippers would wreck the Cavaliers, as they all have already. No doubt the Cavaliers are a good team, and perhaps the best team out of the East, but the Western teams are bigger beasts.
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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The Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, and Clippers would wreck the Cavaliers, as they all have already. No doubt the Cavaliers are a good team, and perhaps the best team out of the East, but the Western teams are bigger beasts.
I think you're over exaggerating, MAJORLY!

Cavs were 1-1 against Houston this year
0-1 against the Spurs, and that game went into OT
They did beat the Warriors in the first regular season game, just saying...

They're better than the Clippers and Rockets. Spurs would be tough.

But all in all, you CANT make that judgement based off what you think. They hardly play any of those teams in the regular season, you have nothing to go off of
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:14 PM
 
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I think you're over exaggerating, MAJORLY!

Cavs were 1-1 against Houston this year
0-1 against the Spurs, and that game went into OT
They did beat the Warriors in the first regular season game, just saying...

They're better than the Clippers and Rockets. Spurs would be tough.

But all in all, you CANT make that judgement based off what you think. They hardly play any of those teams in the regular season, you have nothing to go off of
Don't waste your time with this Happy Joker. He has no idea what he's talking about. He forgets LeBron "wrecked" the Warriors last year. The same warriors that were the best in the West. Enjoy it now Warriors because all good things come to an end and usually much quicker than anyone thinks at the time. Could be as soon as next year if the Spurs are healthy and pick up some players.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Sequoia Heights, Oakland, CA
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I think you're over exaggerating, MAJORLY!

Cavs were 1-1 against Houston this year
0-1 against the Spurs, and that game went into OT
They did beat the Warriors in the first regular season game, just saying...

They're better than the Clippers and Rockets. Spurs would be tough.

But all in all, you CANT make that judgement based off what you think. They hardly play any of those teams in the regular season, you have nothing to go off of
CLE was 0-2 against SAS, 0-2 against LAC, and 1-1 against HOU, just for records sake. Of course, CLE could win a game or two in a series against these Western teams, but they wouldn't win the series. All of these teams, CLE included, are offensive powerhouses. But in regards to defense, CLE is the weaker link, by a large margin.

Net Rating
#1 GSW 12.1
#2 SAS 7.9
#3 HOU 5.4
#6 LAC 4.5
#8 CLE 2.9

Offensive Rating
#1 GSW 113.2
#2 HOU 111.8
#3 CLE 110.9
#4 LAC 110.3
#7 SAS 108.8

Defensive Rating
#1 SAS 100.9
#2 GSW 101.1
#13 LAC 105.8
#18 HOU 106.4
#22 CLE 108

Defensive Efficiency
#1 SAS 1.004
#2 GSW 1.007
#13 LAC 1.050
#15 HOU 1.054
#21 CLE 1.070

Player Impact Estimate
#1 GSW 57.9
#2 SAS 55.1
#3 LAC 52.7
#6 HOU 51.6
#9 CLE 51

Average Scoring Margin
#1 GSW +11.6
#2 SAS +7.3
#3 HOU +5.8
#4 LAC +4.1
#7 CLE +3.4
NBA.com/Stats

CLE being one of two teams in the Finals, doesn't necessarily translate to CLE being one of the two best teams in the league, but rather they are the best team of the East since there are better teams in the West. CLE could be 5th best in the league.

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Don't waste your time with this Happy Joker. He has no idea what he's talking about. He forgets LeBron "wrecked" the Warriors last year. The same warriors that were the best in the West. Enjoy it now Warriors because all good things come to an end and usually much quicker than anyone thinks at the time. Could be as soon as next year if the Spurs are healthy and pick up some players.
YAWNS. ol fortune teller could you pass me the salt?

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Old 06-14-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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KD is weak for joining the dubs.


He will never be a Jordan, Johnson, or even Kobe.
Why? So you have worked for the same company your entire life?
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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CLE was 0-2 against SAS, 0-2 against LAC, and 1-1 against HOU, just for records sake. Of course, CLE could win a game or two in a series against these Western teams, but they wouldn't win the series. All of these teams, CLE included, are offensive powerhouses. But in regards to defense, CLE is the weaker link, by a large margin.

Net Rating
#1 GSW 12.1
#2 SAS 7.9
#3 HOU 5.4
#6 LAC 4.5
#8 CLE 2.9

Offensive Rating
#1 GSW 113.2
#2 HOU 111.8
#3 CLE 110.9
#4 LAC 110.3
#7 SAS 108.8

Defensive Rating
#1 SAS 100.9
#2 GSW 101.1
#13 LAC 105.8
#18 HOU 106.4
#22 CLE 108

Defensive Efficiency
#1 SAS 1.004
#2 GSW 1.007
#13 LAC 1.050
#15 HOU 1.054
#21 CLE 1.070

Player Impact Estimate
#1 GSW 57.9
#2 SAS 55.1
#3 LAC 52.7
#6 HOU 51.6
#9 CLE 51

Average Scoring Margin
#1 GSW +11.6
#2 SAS +7.3
#3 HOU +5.8
#4 LAC +4.1
#7 CLE +3.4
NBA.com/Stats

CLE being one of two teams in the Finals, doesn't necessarily translate to CLE being one of the two best teams in the league, but rather they are the best team of the East since there are better teams in the West. CLE could be 5th best in the league.



YAWNS. ol fortune teller could you pass me the salt?

You give too much praise to the West. The Spurs are the only team that could possibly beat the Cavs in a series. Especially considering playoff Lebron can smash anyone, as we have witnessed multiple times.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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CLE was 0-2 against SAS, 0-2 against LAC, and 1-1 against HOU, just for records sake. Of course, CLE could win a game or two in a series against these Western teams, but they wouldn't win the series. All of these teams, CLE included, are offensive powerhouses. But in regards to defense, CLE is the weaker link, by a large margin.

Net Rating
#1 GSW 12.1
#2 SAS 7.9
#3 HOU 5.4
#6 LAC 4.5
#8 CLE 2.9

Offensive Rating
#1 GSW 113.2
#2 HOU 111.8
#3 CLE 110.9
#4 LAC 110.3
#7 SAS 108.8

Defensive Rating
#1 SAS 100.9
#2 GSW 101.1
#13 LAC 105.8
#18 HOU 106.4
#22 CLE 108

Defensive Efficiency
#1 SAS 1.004
#2 GSW 1.007
#13 LAC 1.050
#15 HOU 1.054
#21 CLE 1.070

Player Impact Estimate
#1 GSW 57.9
#2 SAS 55.1
#3 LAC 52.7
#6 HOU 51.6
#9 CLE 51

Average Scoring Margin
#1 GSW +11.6
#2 SAS +7.3
#3 HOU +5.8
#4 LAC +4.1
#7 CLE +3.4
NBA.com/Stats

CLE being one of two teams in the Finals, doesn't necessarily translate to CLE being one of the two best teams in the league, but rather they are the best team of the East since there are better teams in the West. CLE could be 5th best in the league.



YAWNS. ol fortune teller could you pass me the salt?
Yawns...Thanks for wasting your time looking up meaningless stats. We already said we'd maybe give you the Spurs. You do realize that Lebron, Kyrie, Korver and Love did not even play in one of those games against the Clippers. And the Cavs beat the Warriors in the regular season, and took a game in the Finals, and could have been tied 2-2 if Korver hit a 3 in the last minute.

We get it, Warriors fans are sore winners. KD came up big time and time again in the Finals. Unlike last year when OKC was up 3-1. That's great. I'd rather have big time players step up than fail. Warriors bench came through when they had to and the Cavs didn't. You obviously know nothing about sports and momentum, but can look up meaningless stats that mean nothing in the playoffs. But again, not unlike all the techie Warriors fans who were born in the 90's and just started watching basketball, oh maybe 5 years ago. Hahaha.
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