North Korea and the San Francisco Bay Area (houses, live in)

[BurnInTheMil]

I understand it's hard not to "buy into" all the talk, threats, etc...between the US and North Korea, but odds of it actually happening are still lower than what the news makes it out to be (of course!)

Simply too much at stake, assets, too many would die, etc... The US military would crush North Korea very quickly if something were to happen, and North Korea would lose their dictatorship shortly after. Sure, a bunch would die, but the last thing NK wants is a free country

[Lieneke]

Negotiations to release a Canadian pastor from N. Korea are in the works in the last 24 hours and an announcement regarding his release is pending. Religious leader, Hyeon Soo Lim, was detained in a labor camp for 2 years.

It's interesting timing that while the Canadians are negotiating the release of a prisoner from N. Korea on the basis of humanitarian grounds, Trump is discussing war with the same country. Why is it that one global leader can successfully communicate with N. Korea while the other cannot communicate?

Even a kindergarten teacher knows that conflict requires de-escalation. Why don't Trump and his advisors know this?

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

One would hope so, but word is that they've figured out how to attach nuclear weapons to the top of their missiles and are now capable of sending nuclear weapons as far as the USA ... speculation is that they can reach Chicago. Trump seems to be taking the threats seriously, and lobbing bigger threats back at North Korea.

Last time anyone worried about nuclear bombs was the 1960s. Between 1960 and today, people have joked about the ridiculous "preparation" and safety recommendations that were provided to people about how to survive a nuclear attack. It seems rather insane that there are news reports about this again 50 years later.

I suspect that people around the world have their eyes on Trump to see what his next move will be. Is he thinking that he can attack North Korea without endangering South Koreans? What could he possibly be thinking - that South Koreans are collateral damage?

Let's be real here though. Their icbm is probably incredibly primitive (think 1960s technology) and we're loaded to the gills with anti missile defenses.

[Lieneke]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

Let's be real here though. Their icbm is probably incredibly primitive (think 1960s technology) and we're loaded to the gills with anti missile defenses.

I hear what you're saying, as it seems that a few people here are not taking this news seriously. Does it not concern you that the US President is taking this seriously? He is such a goofy man that one would expect him to be making his usual "fake news" remarks if he had doubts about the seriousness of the situation.

Why does he allow this news to stand as real if it is fake news? Is escalating conflict with a dangerous country part of his determination to distract USA citizens from his personal troubles?

Is Trump's public acknowledgement of N. Korean nuclear bombs part of his fake news mind games?

[BurnInTheMil]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

I hear what you're saying, as it seems that a few people here are not taking this news seriously. Does it not concern you that the US President is taking this seriously? He is such a goofy man that one would expect him to be making his usual "fake news" remarks if he had doubts about the seriousness of the situation.

Why does he allow this news to stand as real if it is fake news? Is escalating conflict with a dangerous country part of his determination to distract USA citizens from his personal troubles?

Is Trump's public acknowledgement of N. Korean nuclear bombs part of his fake news mind games?

I don't think it's fake news. I think tensions are definitely high. But still think detours will be made and this will be avoided

[Lieneke]

Originally Posted by Greg10556

I don't think it's fake news. I think tensions are definitely high. But still think detours will be made and this will be avoided

I don't think there's any option other than to avoid the "fire and fury" that excites Trump and the crazy war games of N. Korea. The problem is that both leaders want to save face, and the way they do that is to follow through.

OR ... is it enough for the two of them to stand opposing one another, posturing with threats and the acknowledgement that they can do what they claim, and to leave it at that?

[BurnInTheMil]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

I don't think there's any option other than to avoid the "fire and fury" that excites Trump and the crazy war games of N. Korea. The problem is that both leaders want to save face, and the way they do that is to follow through.

OR ... is it enough for the two of them to stand opposing one another, posturing with threats and the acknowledgement that they can do what they claim, and to leave it at that?

I actually do think it's the second thing you noted.

Both "leaders" are simply crazy. Continuing to "show force" and talk about how much damage can be done without actually doing anything is what's keeping everything at a stand still (for now). It will be annoying to hear something everyday about the "death that awaits America" but I will surely deal with it, instead of actually being blown to pieces.

[Maliblue]

Originally Posted by LiaLia

Any thoughts one way or another?

They are planning to take out Guam first.

[calicoastal]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

I'm having a hard time believing my ears today - news about nuclear war threats, building bunkers, updating information about what to do after a nuclear bomb strike, and Trump's stance of being aggressive. Sheesh! Is there nothing that can be done about the USA President who started his reign by poking a stick at other countries and who now is reaping the benefits of those stupid actions?

What is wrong with the man? Is he thinking that he'll be safe and who cares about everyone else?

You think North Korea developed nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles in the 6 months Trump has been president? LOL. Trump has been taking a strong stand against NK, which is why the threats are escalating. Allowing NK to continue on its current path without interference will only make the situation far, far worse.

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

I'm having a hard time believing my ears today - news about nuclear war threats, building bunkers, updating information about what to do after a nuclear bomb strike, and Trump's stance of being aggressive. Sheesh! Is there nothing that can be done about the USA President who started his reign by poking a stick at other countries and who now is reaping the benefits of those stupid actions?

What is wrong with the man? Is he thinking that he'll be safe and who cares about everyone else?

Why are you blaming Trump? The UN is who got North Korea all fired up, with their sanctions.

And who actually allowed to them to arm with nuclear weapons? I'll give you a hint - it wasn't Trump.