Patriot march planned for GG park, should it be banned? (Richmond: renting, home)

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Absolutely right. Those who think this is a tiny fringe will be surprised. This is Trump's voter base, to a large extent.

In the same way that Bush II relied upon the Holy Roller constituency for votes (after "discovering" and energizing them during his father's electoral campaign), these are the people who crawled out of the woodwork to elect Trump. Granted, Trump didn't deliberately seek them out. And one could argue that not all of the participants in these events are "supremacists", but more along the lines of garden-variety racists who have been disgruntled with the "multicultural" part of the democratic processes at work over generations in US society, it still amounts to a highly emotional, inflammatory crowd.

And there you have it - the same "basket of deplorables" mentality that put Trump in office.

So thank you, by the way. For the eight years of respite we'll have from marxist lefties.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve87

So if they want to do these demonstrations everyday? They'd paralyze the city but we have to allow them? There has to be a limit, I don't pretend to be a legal scholar for the Constitution but it's time to find this limit.

You do grasp the "permit" based nature of these events, right? That's the limit - the bureaucrats that control the permitting process obviously wouldn't allow continual demonstrations, and the limit you appear confused about has already been explored and defined decades ago.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by jade408

No the the amount of people who believe in white supremacy is not tiny, nor is it insignificant and nor is it harmless. Most of the incidents of domestic terrorism have come from this movement.

https://www.axios.com/fbi-and-dhs-re...472924837.html
White extremist murders: Killed at least 60 in U.S. since 1995.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/...w-enforcement/
White Supremacists More Dangerous To America Than Foreign Terrorists, Study Says | HuffPost
Homegrown Terrorism and Why the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism Is Rising in America

These people have been emboldened by Trump's presidency and refusal to denounce their behavior. There sentiments are reflected in broader American culture - directly and indirectly.

It the grand scram of things it is tiny and it is insignificant. More people die in Baltimore every year than by white supremacist over two decades. Counter protesting just emboldens them. This coupled with the recent trend of not stopping violence towards peaceful conservative speakers like milo or people attending trump rallies in 16 in San Jose has lead to our current situation. Violence towards those with either controversional to crazy ideas are left to protect themselves leading to street battles between two idiotic groups, the white supremacist and antifa.

This would not have happened if people were outraged about political violence in the last couple of years when the far left was doing it. Instead they just closed their eyes and pretended like nothing was wrong. Ecause the conservatives some how deserved it. The same things appear in the thread where political violence by one side is ok and moral but evil when done by the other side.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

This is a person who doesn't recognize code words. Like when Reagan harped on about "welfare queens".

Yeah, sure, we're all patriotic, aren't we? Let's just call it "Flag Day", and all get out there and wave our flags. That's what it's about, isn't it? Sweetness and innocent love of country.

You imply some special knowledge regarding the intent or frame of mind or ideology held by potential event attendees. You must an omniscient being indeed to have all this information that nobody else has got.

[WizardOfRadical]

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve87

Nothing is wrong with being proud of being White. I'm White.

These White Supremacists want to either ethnically cleanse our country of minorities or enslave them again. Do you listen to their rhetoric?

Some just want their own community, like Chinatown, Fruitvale, etc. Just with white people.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve87

Nothing is wrong with being proud of being White. I'm White.

These White Supremacists want to either ethnically cleanse our country of minorities or enslave them again. Do you listen to their rhetoric?

Who said this? How do you know that is what everyone at these rallies wanted? You must be a mind reader? And enslaving people? Please post even one link substantiating this allegation that anyone, even people who declare themselves "white Supremacists" - whatever that means - have expressed this desire.

Really, just stop with the lies and the hysteric claims. None of this is even remotely true.

BTW, do you consider prohibiting non-whites from entering to be "ethnic cleansing"? That's a bizarre definition of the term if you do.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by sciroccot

Pelosi challenges Park Service on permit for 'white supremacist' rally in San Francisco

In the interests of public safety, this event should not be allowed to take place. The very idea of pitch battles between White Patriot supporters and Antifa is enough to sign the petition to ban this event before the Richmond district is ransacked and destroyed.

Little known fact. Circa 25 years ago there was a definite White Nationalist / Nazi element in both the Richmond and the Sunset. That should be no surprise. Those were traditionally extremely white, blue collar hoods. When the not-white and not-as-white newer arrivals changed the demographic, some of the white boyz got their panties in a wad. A fragment of them got recruited into the various scum groups.

I have to wonder if some remnant of them are still there, especially with lots of Ruski boyz having grown up in the Richmond.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by GSR13

Nah you're a Commie, don't worry about it. Lol, didn't seem so hard for you to say "no you can't do this" after all

Well, actually, given how the Ruskis are supporting lots of Western "White Nationalists" - you might actually be the real Commie here.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Nothing wrong with being proud to be white.

Why does everyone get to be proud and have their own neighborhood, but white folks?????

"Get to" have their own neighborhood?! How can you not be aware that some people were forced to "have their own neighborhoods"? They were segregated, in some cases by law (Chinatown, Asian exclusionary laws), in other cases by covert practice (redlining, ghettoization). Hello?

And what do you call the Richmond District, bordering both the Presidio and GG Park, if not "white people 'getting to have' their own neighborhood? What about SF's "Little Italy"? What about St. Francis Wood, or nearly the entire east side of Berkeley, as examples of white people having their own neighborhoods? Oakland's Montclair?

Pride movements arose as a result of being marginalized by the dominant society (guess who that would be) and considered "inferior". The dominant element in society doesn't need a pride movement. It's been calling the shots since the Republic was formed.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by phantompilot

What is a "white supremacist" and why are they "scum"?

I also somewhat reject the "white supremacist" label. I much prefer to see them labeled "White Nationalists."

But the most truthful labels would be:
- Duginists
- National Bolsheviks
- Eurasianists