Underrated and Overrated Bay Area cities? (Walnut Creek, Folsom: real estate, 2015, living in)

[NOLA101]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Yea maybe if you get a time machine and go back 100 years. Ukranian Village is filled with yuppies, not eastern Europeans. Greek town is no longer greek. Only Chinatown is ethnic.

I have no idea what this non-sequitur has do with anything.

Protip: You don't have to "go back 100 years" to find ethnic neighborhoods, in Chicago, the Bay Area, everywhere.

You were the one accusing others of "racism" for suggesting that Chinese folks preferred Cupertino, with no explanation given. Still waiting on an explanation for that nonsense.

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Are you really trying to suggest that Chicago housing projects are not filled with black people?????

Talk about non-sequiturs. What about the ethnic composition of housing complexes in exurban Bratislava? I mean, totally relevant to a discussion of Bay Area housing choice patterns!

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by sav858

Walnut Creek, it's about half the price per sq ft as Cupertino. Lafayette is over a third less than Cupertino psf.

But we've been through this already. There's at least two highly visible reasons why they aren't equivalent.

People who live in Cupertino pay any premium over a place like Walnut Creek because it has that amount of value to them. Whether that is a short commute or schools they are happy with or demographics they are comfortable with, it all sums up to that extra cost.

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

It's because people in those 925 places are barting to SF. Where as in Cupertino they have to drive around the Valley.

But they are two different groups, working in different industries. The people driving in the south bay are going to higher paying tech jobs. The Bart crowd is going to your run of the mill NORMCORE corporate slave jobs. The houses in Walnut Creek are not going to be as expensive as Cupertino housing. No one could afford it and the houses would just sit there until there was massive price reduction in listed prices.

Yah, I agree. Kinda comparing apples to oranges.

[NOLA101]

Originally Posted by phantompilot

But we've been through this already. There's at least two highly visible reasons why they aren't equivalent.

People who live in Cupertino pay any premium over a place like Walnut Creek because it has that amount of value to them. Whether that is a short commute or schools they are happy with or demographics they are comfortable with, it all sums up to that extra cost.

You're arguing in circles. You're saying that Cupertino is more expensive than Walnut Creek, because people pay more for housing. We get that already. The question is why.

And I think the consensus is that Asians, Chinese in particular, have an extreme affinity for Cupertino, driving up housing costs beyond what non-Asians are willing to pay for what was traditionally a very modest, middle-middle class community with zero social cachet. Walnut Creek has no such extreme demand.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

It's because people in those 925 places are barting to SF. Where as in Cupertino they have to drive around the Valley.

But they are two different groups, working in different industries. The people driving in the south bay are going to higher paying tech jobs. The Bart crowd is going to your run of the mill NORMCORE corporate slave jobs. The houses in Walnut Creek are not going to be as expensive as Cupertino housing. No one could afford it and the houses would just sit there until there was massive price reduction in listed prices.

This is probably the most sane and logical comment in this exchange.

Prices are set by whatever who is willing to pay for it - market demand. It is what it is.

[WizardOfRadical]

Originally Posted by silverkris

This is probably the most sane and logical comment in this exchange.

Prices are set by whatever who is willing to pay for it - market demand. It is what it is.

Well, the reason I have the most sane and logical arguement is because I am in law school and work in the legal industry under a research attorney and a couple dozen superior court judges. It is an industry that requires logic.

OBSCENE racial claims like "it's the chineeeeeeeese" or Walnut Creek fanboyism really offer nothing to the thread. LOL

[WizardOfRadical]

Originally Posted by NOLA101

I have no idea what this non-sequitur has do with anything.

Protip: You don't have to "go back 100 years" to find ethnic neighborhoods, in Chicago, the Bay Area, everywhere.

You were the one accusing others of "racism" for suggesting that Chinese folks preferred Cupertino, with no explanation given. Still waiting on an explanation for that nonsense.


Talk about non-sequiturs. What about the ethnic composition of housing complexes in exurban Bratislava? I mean, totally relevant to a discussion of Bay Area housing choice patterns!

There are a lot of chinese people living there because the job centers in the area employ them. The reason it is almost exclusively Chinese is more a result of white flight. Just typical whites not liking too many people of color, and their fears of their children being unable to perform in school, despite having every advantage given to them.

It's not like Chinatown, where it is an actual ethnic enclave for folks with marginal income who have just moved there. So this strange racial theory you have created in your own head does not really have merit. Keep trying kiddo.

[calicoastal]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

There are a lot of chinese people living there because the job centers in the area employ them. The reason it is almost exclusively Chinese is more a result of white flight. Just typical whites not liking too many people of color, and their fears of their children being unable to perform in school, despite having every advantage given to them.

It's not like Chinatown, where it is an actual ethnic enclave for folks with marginal income who have just moved there. So this strange racial theory you have created in your own head does not really have merit. Keep trying kiddo.

You are obsessed with classifying people by race it seems.

[SocSciProf]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

. . . the legal industry . . . requires logic.

Ha-ha-ha.

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

OBSCENE racial claims like "it's the chineeeeeeeese" or Walnut Creek fanboyism really offer nothing to the thread. LOL

Agreed.

[NOLA101]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Well, the reason I have the most sane and logical arguement is because I am in law school and work in the legal industry under a research attorney and a couple dozen superior court judges. It is an industry that requires logic.

Well that settles it, LOL. If you're in law school that obviously prevents you from any C-D claims of non-logic...

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

OBSCENE racial claims like "it's the chineeeeeeeese" or Walnut Creek fanboyism really offer nothing to the thread. LOL

Yeah, those damn Census stats. Clearly obscene and racist. Data is clearly bigoted if a dude in law school doesn't like the data.

[NOLA101]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

There are a lot of chinese people living there because the job centers in the area employ them.

No, that's not the reason. Apple isn't 90% Asian employees. Cupertino schools are, however, like 90% Asian.