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Old 03-16-2018, 06:46 PM
 
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This is not correct.
I have seen grads getting 300k offers but those are rare.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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Even though SF is expensive, you can still do more with 165k in SF than 95k in most other places unless you want to own a house, but it sounds like that isn't your top priority.

However...it also sounds like you'd just plain be happier to from home and aren't sold on being in the Bay Area. So if that's the case, then the offer to work remotely will probably be worth it for you. (And 95k elsewhere is no slouch.)
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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If I had the same offer and me being 25 and just in the first few years of beginning my career - I would take the SF job without hesitation. So many opportunities for networking and growth that would be vital for your career development.

However, if it was later in life and I already had an established career - then the remote option for sure.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:17 AM
 
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Hi All,

Wanted to follow-up on this thread. I ended up taking the gig in SF. I've been here for close to two months now. Job has turned out to be pretty decent. Well known tech company. Excellent benefits. Interesting problems to solve.

Coming to the Bay Area has showed me that:

1. I just don't care to live here. I don't hate the place, but I'm not crazy about it either.

2. The $165k salary doesn't go as far as I thought it would after CA taxes have been taken out and my rent is paid for. The real advantage is in the bonus and stock I receive. If I were to stick to this current gig for 1-2 years I can easily pay off my debts and have some extra money for savings and investment.

3. The networking opportunities here are as good as any place I've ever been. I've had at least 5 companies reach out to me over the last month since I moved here and changed my linkedin profile to show Bay Area residency. I've also met a ton of people from Google, MS, Facebook, and many other well known companies.

But, after 1 month I can't say that I'm happy with the decision to pass on the remote gig. It is clearer now more than ever that I would prefer the freedom of working anywhere I want.

I now have another remote opportunity in my grasp, that would pay be even more than the first.

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Old 10-14-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Hi All,

Wanted to follow-up on this thread. I ended up taking the gig in SF. I've been here for close to two months now. Job has turned out to be pretty decent. Well known tech company. Excellent benefits. Interesting problems to solve.

Coming to the Bay Area has showed me that:

1. I just don't care to live here. I don't hate the place, but I'm not crazy about it either.

2. The $165k salary doesn't go as far as I thought it would after CA taxes have been taken out and my rent is paid for. The real advantage is in the bonus and stock I receive. If I were to stick to this current gig for 1-2 years I can easily pay off my debts and have some extra money for savings and investment.

3. The networking opportunities here are as good as any place I've ever been. I've had at least 5 companies reach out to me over the last month since I moved here and changed my linkedin profile to show Bay Area residency. I've also met a ton of people from Google, MS, Facebook, and many other well known companies.

But, after 1 month I can't say that I'm happy with the decision to pass on the remote gig. It is clearer now more than ever that I would prefer the freedom of working anywhere I want.

I now have another remote opportunity in my grasp, that would pay be even more than the first.
When I saw your topic today, I was going to post that you should take the Bay Area job, and use it as a springboard to get a remote-work job later, after you've experienced the Bay. And working for whoever you're working for in the Bay will look good on your resume, too. You can have both-and, it doesn't have to be an either-or decision, as you've now discovered. Give us updates, when you do move on to your remote-work option.

Get out and enjoy nature around the Bay, too, to get a good feel for the place. Check out Big Basin redwood park, in Santa Cruz County, check out Marin County beaches and redwood forests. Check out the redwood park in the Oakland hills. Heck, take a small vacation to explore Santa Cruz & the county (we can advise you as to sights to see), and another one for Marin and Sonoma. And another one to explore the North Coast, and its parks. Get the most of your California experience, before moving on.

With a remote-work job, you could relocate to Europe for awhile.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Hi All,

Wanted to follow-up on this thread. I ended up taking the gig in SF. I've been here for close to two months now. Job has turned out to be pretty decent. Well known tech company. Excellent benefits. Interesting problems to solve.

Coming to the Bay Area has showed me that:

1. I just don't care to live here. I don't hate the place, but I'm not crazy about it either.

2. The $165k salary doesn't go as far as I thought it would after CA taxes have been taken out and my rent is paid for. The real advantage is in the bonus and stock I receive. If I were to stick to this current gig for 1-2 years I can easily pay off my debts and have some extra money for savings and investment.

3. The networking opportunities here are as good as any place I've ever been. I've had at least 5 companies reach out to me over the last month since I moved here and changed my linkedin profile to show Bay Area residency. I've also met a ton of people from Google, MS, Facebook, and many other well known companies.

But, after 1 month I can't say that I'm happy with the decision to pass on the remote gig. It is clearer now more than ever that I would prefer the freedom of working anywhere I want.

I now have another remote opportunity in my grasp, that would pay be even more than the first.
I could have warned you but the SF cheer leaders would have swarmed in and argue that SF is the greatest place on earth.

SF is overrated on most everything.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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When I saw your topic today, I was going to post that you should take the Bay Area job, and use it as a springboard to get a remote-work job later, after you've experienced the Bay. And working for whoever you're working for in the Bay will look good on your resume, too. You can have both-and, it doesn't have to be an either-or decision, as you've now discovered. Give us updates, when you do move on to your remote-work option.

Get out and enjoy nature around the Bay, too, to get a good feel for the place. Check out Big Basin redwood park, in Santa Cruz County, check out Marin County beaches and redwood forests. Check out the redwood park in the Oakland hills. Heck, take a small vacation to explore Santa Cruz & the county (we can advise you as to sights to see), and another one for Marin and Sonoma. And another one to explore the North Coast, and its parks. Get the most of your California experience, before moving on.

With a remote-work job, you could relocate to Europe for awhile.
Great suggestions Ruth. I kinda feel bad about even considering another gig after just moving here. But at the end of the day, my happiness is in my hands.

Going to look into taking a couple of trips before the year ends to explore surrounding areas.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Great suggestions Ruth. I kinda feel bad about even considering another gig after just moving here. But at the end of the day, my happiness is in my hands.

Going to look into taking a couple of trips before the year ends to explore surrounding areas.
You only just moved to the area; give yourself a chance to get to know it. Sure, traffic is bad, BART has seen better days, etc., but you should get some enjoyment out of the area before you move on. You've barely scratched the surface. Best wishes with your choices for future career growth, though!
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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You only just moved to the area; give yourself a chance to get to know it. Sure, traffic is bad, BART has seen better days, etc., but you should get some enjoyment out of the area before you move on. You've barely scratched the surface. Best wishes with your choices for future career growth, though!
I think the longer he's here the more he will be disappointed in the Bay Area.

Sure there are awesome places to visit but after that your right back in the Bay Area dealing with CA and Bay Area antics.

If he can work remotely I would recommend working on the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe (no state income tax and silly CA laws and fees) and enjoy stunning nature 24/7. Taking trips to CA would be a breeze living in that area.

One thing he's about to experience here during elections with respect to raising taxes. People who will not be affected by these tax raises are allowed to vote on these raises. In other words people with less income are voting on taking more of his income to give to the state. That's the craziest thing I've ever experienced since moving here.

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Old 10-14-2018, 05:02 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I think the longer he's here the more he will be disappointed in the Bay Area.

Sure there are awesome places to visit but after that your right back in the Bay Area dealing with CA and Bay Area antics.

If he can work remotely I would recommend working on the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe (no state income tax and silly CA laws and fees) and enjoy stunning nature 24/7. Taking trips to CA would be a breeze living in that area.

One thing he's about to experience here during elections with respect to raising taxes. People who will not be affected by these tax raises are allowed to vote on these raises. In other words people with less income are voting on taking more of his income to give to the state. That's the craziest thing I've ever experienced since moving here.
Well, OP said he wanted to live in Atlanta or the midwest, not NV. I was only thinking, that he may as well give himself some time to enjoy the best parts of the Bay, before he abandons it. But if he's getting job offers that need to be decided promptly, then he should take the offer that best suits him, I guess.
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