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Old 04-27-2019, 11:46 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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The "homeless" are breaking the laws. Why are the police doing nothing about it?
How many times do you need the answers repeated?
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Old 04-27-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Right here:
Moving on ...
Come on Tule you can do better than this. Again I never accused anyone of stating that “free to wander around and kill and rob as they please”. I'm the one who made that statement based on this comment: "you just can't arbitrarily take people's freedom away without a very compelling reason."

The crazed and dangerous homeless, the ones causing public destruction and creating bio-hazardous conditions all around cities including the ones who shoot up in broad daylight and then toss their needles on public and private property and the ones who run around angrily screaming at imaginary people are the ones who need to be institutionalized. Add to it the brazen bike chop shops thieves and businesses right out on full view all the while people simply walk by and see nothing wrong with it. That's a highly dysfunctional society that simply turns it's head at these behaviors.

Why do you think the SF police simply ignore these behaviors?

This what bleeding hearts have done to SF. When I mention bleeding heart I am referring to a person considered to be dangerously softhearted, typically someone considered too liberal in political beliefs. They are not rational and can only view things through an emotional lens.


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Old 04-27-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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This is insanity allowing this to go on for as long as it has in SF.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9pgh5EO6lw
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Old 04-27-2019, 01:09 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Come on Tule you can do better than this. Again I never accused anyone of stating that “free to wander around and kill and rob as they please”.
Again, here you are saying that, quoted.
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Sure just let them be free to wonder around and kill and rob as they please.
Who are you referring to when you say this? You are paraphrasing, at the least. Who?

Seems possible you are referring to 2sleepy, but maybe me or someone else. You indicate so below when you quote 2sleepy here:
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I'm the one who made that statement based on this comment: "you just can't arbitrarily take people's freedom away without a very compelling reason."
But that statement doesn’t say what you are suggesting, at all. It is a simple, straightforward statement of legal fact, as has been demonstrated many times to you before.

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The crazed and dangerous homeless, the ones causing public destruction and creating bio-hazardous conditions all around cities including the ones who shoot up in broad daylight and then toss their needles on public and private property and the ones who run around angrily screaming at imaginary people are the ones who need to be institutionalized. Add to it the brazen bike chop shops thieves and businesses right out on full view all the while people simply walk by and see nothing wrong with it. That's a highly dysfunctional society that simply turns it's head at these behaviors.

Why do you think the SF police simply ignore these behaviors?

This what bleeding hearts have done to SF. When I mention bleeding heart I am referring to a person considered to be dangerously softhearted, typically someone considered too liberal in political beliefs. They are not rational and can only view things through an emotional lens.
First off, the police aren’t “ignoring” those behaviors. There are arrests made and such has been quoted and linked from police and media sources numerous times before in this thread.

The reasons that lots and LOTS of those behaviors go on without arrests have also been explained ad nauseam in this thread before. I am confident you have read them. It comes down to resources, timing, economics. And several of us, who you accuse of being “bleeding hearts” when we explain these realities to you, are not “viewing things though an emotional lens” when we relay the factual realities. We don’t do so to present the homeless as sweet wonderful misunderstood souls. We do so to establish a factual basis for situation review.

You really need to understand this and stop the repetitive falsifications of intent.
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Old 04-27-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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First off, the police aren’t “ignoring” those behaviors. There are arrests made and such has been quoted and linked from police and media sources numerous times before in this thread.
Yes they are and if you watch the videos I posted you can see it for yourself. If that does not satisfy you then you can search YouTube and find more evidence that the police in SF are ignoring these behaviors.
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It comes down to resources, timing, economics.
The police are well paid in SF to do a job. Ignoring crime and uncivilized behaviors seem to be what they think is not a part of their civil service duties.

Sure no resources but yet there are resources to give them safe shoot up booths, food stamps, free handouts.

SF has the resources...however the resources are poorly managed by the government.
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You really need to understand this and stop the repetitive falsifications of intent.
Your narrative is not accurate. I've posted the reality of the situation. Your bleeding heart lens just does not like the reality of the situation others see and instead you make excuse after excuse for these uncivilized folks.
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Old 04-27-2019, 01:41 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Yes they are and if you watch the videos I posted you can see it for yourself. If that does not satisfy you then you can search YouTube and find more evidence that the police in SF are ignoring these behaviors.
The police are well paid in SF to do a job. Ignoring crime and uncivilized behaviors seem to be what they think is not a part of their civil service duties.

Sure no resources but yet there are resources to give them safe shoot up booths, food stamps, free handouts.

SF has the resources...however the resources are poorly managed by the government.
Your narrative is not accurate. I've posted the reality of the situation. Your bleeding heart lens just does not like the reality of the situation others see and instead you make excuse after excuse for these uncivilized folks.
Right back to your “bleeding heart lens” mantra, eh? Lol. Too funny. Not a whiff of “bleeding heart” in any comments I made. Not a single “excuse” either.

You also have zero understanding of what I refer to with: “resources, timing, and economics.” And these realities and legalities have been explained to you so many times that you clearly never will. Go enjoy your vigilantism fantasy some more now.
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Old 04-27-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Right back to your “bleeding heart lens” mantra, eh? Lol. Too funny. Not a whiff of “bleeding heart” in any comments I made. Not a single “excuse” either.

You also have zero understanding of what I refer to with: “resources, timing, and economics.” And these realities and legalities have been explained to you so many times that you clearly never will. Go enjoy your vigilantism fantasy some more now.
No resources eh?

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Old 04-27-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Where did I say this?

The "homeless" are breaking the laws. Why are the police doing nothing about it?
What laws are the homeless breaking that could result in an arrest? You're so smart I expect you will be able to answer that and I will be right here waiting. (you might want to do a little research on the feasibility of booking people for misdemeanors before you post your response)
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Old 04-27-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I love this crock notion of inequality. What used to be called success via hard work and fortune is now called inequality.
Everyone should read what this person posted, it perfectly suits the current times.
Do you have a better suggestion?
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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What laws are the homeless breaking that could result in an arrest? You're so smart I expect you will be able to answer that and I will be right here waiting. (you might want to do a little research on the feasibility of booking people for misdemeanors before you post your response)
Stealing, setting up permanent living quarters on public land, shooting up drugs on public property, destroying public property and randomly killing others.

Being smart has nothing to do with understanding the laws they are breaking.
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