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Old 02-05-2019, 07:01 PM
Status: "Not My Circus - Not My Monkeys" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: San Francisco
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Wow Cowboy, First the French Parisians and now the Chicagoans, good job!
Have you ever been to Chicago? I am an ex-Californian living there, and it is a desireable place to live, since it is booming in its core and gentrifying to the extent that it is now the most educated of the 6 largest cities and certainly one of the most beautiful. It is also more affordable than SF,which makes it more desireable in some ways since you can live a great life there on less while keeping a high income.

Desireability is in the eye of the beholder. Whether it is the 6th in Paris or the Gold Coast in Chicago, your idea of what is nice is certiainly different than alot of people's.

Time to saddle up and ride off.
It’s not an insult to either place - in fact, I love Paris (and said as much). I like Chicago too, but it would not rank as one of my personal favorites/most desirable places to live. And if you followed each post in the thread, you’d understand my comments in context. And as far as what people think is desireable - that’s EXACTLY what I said - desirability varies from person to person (and so I’m allowed to find the ocean and sailboats desireable). Some people may hate sailing or wineries - or they don’t like the Bay Area for other reasons, I’m not offended by their choices on where to live. I think a lot of people agree with me on all that the Bay Area has to offer - because if they didn’t, real estate prices and the COL wouldn’t be what they are (even in areas far away from job centers). Paris is gorgeous - I love it, and if you refer back to post #820 and #824, I specifically said that. I was questioned as to why I thought a specific area in Paris was less desirable to LIVE if someone had the whole country of France at their fingertips. Not a big deal - especially considering the whole issue of Paris doesn’t really relate to this thread. And who doesn’t love Paris? But if I was going to live in France (which I would gladly do if I could)), it probably wouldn’t be in Paris. Just my opinion - because that’s what people do in forums. Give opinions.

And yeah - as soon as possible, I would like to saddle up - on my sailboat. Thanks!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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haha, now Chicago... one of the most segregated cities in America, surprising considering it has had considerable 'community organizing' by one of our most brilliant and capable, reportedly, Presidents himself. Yeah I know a little about the Windy, own some property there, and I certainly would not live there ever again. It has great live music, great arts, symphony, opera not to mention pizza, and other good food. The people are great mostly. However, I am amazed at how much racial tension there is there, much more than any part of California that I have visited. Definitely not a chill attitude. The crime rate is unreal. Almost got murdered in the L by some gang banger screaming at the top of his lungs how he was gonna murder at someone on the phone.

Yeah, no thanks people.
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:51 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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What’s seriously overrated is ... this thread.
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:40 PM
Status: "Not My Circus - Not My Monkeys" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: San Francisco
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What’s seriously overrated is ... this thread.
Haha - good call!
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:08 PM
 
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However, I am amazed at how much racial tension there is there, much more than any part of California that I have visited. Definitely not a chill attitude. The crime rate is unreal. Almost got murdered in the L by some gang banger screaming at the top of his lungs how he was gonna murder at someone on the phone.

Yeah, no thanks people.
Passive aggressive racial tension. Guys with mental problems screaming at the top of their lungs. I can think of plenty of places that have this going on. A couple immediately come to mind....and neither is Chicago.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Passive aggressive racial tension. Guys with mental problems screaming at the top of their lungs. I can think of plenty of places that have this going on. A couple immediately come to mind....and neither is Chicago.
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It’s interesting that you copy things from the internet rather than utilize your personal experience from which to speak. I never said it was crap (not anything close haha) - I said it TENDS to be LESS DESIREABLE for people seeking a move to France (at least in terms of retirement or second home scenarios). SOME of the area is posh (I never said differently - I wasn’t commenting on its posh factor at all) - but that alone is not the only criteria one would use to determine a move. Blocks of ‘posh’ can be found in every major city; of course, that is rarely how a ‘more desirable’ area for a move is determined (at least not for me). Parts of SF are posh, too, so by the basis of your criteria in regard to France, then - those areas would be more desirable than the rest of the Bay Area? I don’t agree - there are posh sections of Chicago, too - but that doesn’t make it a desireable city to live by most people’s standards. I would still come to the conclusion/opinion Chicago is less desirable. I think any arrondissement of Paris is less desirable than other parts of France (in terms of living, unless of course if distance to my employer factored in. But that’s really irrelevant to this thread. Paris is a beautiful city - I never said, nor intended to imply, Paris (or any part of it) is crap - lol.

And, the point of this thread is not to debate Paris (or who would ever move to Paris in the first place, yet alone where) - my post was to convey how irrelevant a discussion of Paris was in terms of a thread about whether the Bay Area is overrated or not.
Are you serious??? Vast areas of Chicago are well off and highly desirable. It is ne of the most vintage brant cities n the nation. The crime rates you speak up largely happen n a couple f nighborhoods n the west and south sides.

Chicago shares avlot in common wih San Francisco....

Two world class, truly great cities

As for the bigotry, what you write sounds lme Chicago. Yes, a half century back, racial relations...whch meant at the time back and white..were notoriously bad..and our recod in segrgation was the worst.

Flash forward to today’s Chicago and the old black-whit polarization has grealy abbetted in a very diverse city where ehites, blacks, hispanics and Asians each hoccupy a large chunk of the populatio.

This is a very sophisticat d city, leay more liberal than conservative and every bit as blue as SF. We relate to you, San Francisco, because we are one of you...again in that global city category which also includes, Boston, New York, Washington and Los Angeles. And we differ fro the other six because we are in noncoastal zone.

But you have no idea how Lake Michigan makes us feel that we are

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Old 02-08-2019, 01:59 PM
Status: "Not My Circus - Not My Monkeys" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: San Francisco
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I like Chicago. Never said anything about their crime - so that must be directed at another poster. I said in my personal opinion - Chicago would not be considered one of the more desireable cities for me to live. I love the Bay Area (but have lived elsewhere too) - and it would take a lot for me to move again. I love sailing, and I love the ocean. I recognize that many other people love their cities for different reasons, and I don’t get offended if they don’t like it here. Nowhere is perfect.

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Old 02-08-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA/São Paulo, Brazil
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What’s seriously overrated is ... this thread.
They think theyre sticking it to us and telling us off online.
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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They think theyre sticking it to us and telling us off online.
Just to be clear, when you say 'they' (are), are you saying they as in a group of people, or a they as in a non CIS gender, i.e. one of the new gender identities that sprang up recently ?
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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They think theyre sticking it to us and telling us off online.
Yes, of course. That's what "theyre" doing.
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