03-17-2019, 03:02 PM
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I don't like this. We need conservative voices to temper our prevailing views, and they need to be around us so they don't forget that we are all the same once you peel apart what I view as mostly superficial differences. It's not good that theyre only exposure to people with opposing views is a media outlet so toxic and divisive as Fox News.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/...-move-out/amp/
03-17-2019, 04:00 PM
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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18Montclair
I don't like this. We need conservative voices to temper our prevailing views, and they need to be around us so they don't forget that we are all the same once you peel apart what I view as mostly superficial differences. It's not good that theyre only exposure to people with opposing views is a media outlet so toxic and divisive as Fox News.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/...-move-out/amp/
What did you expect? Republicans can raise there voices to the hill tops they won’t be heard. They’re not even listening to dems begging them to fix the city just a little. I thought I’d be a higher percentage then 3 to 1 frankly. When libs try and burn down a building at Berkeley when a conservative (Milo) speaks there it’s time to get outta dodge.
03-17-2019, 05:10 PM
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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What did you expect? Republicans can raise there voices to the hill tops they won’t be heard. They’re not even listening to dems begging them to fix the city just a little. I thought I’d be a higher percentage then 3 to 1 frankly. When libs try and burn down a building at Berkeley when a conservative (Milo) speaks there it’s time to get outta dodge.
This^ is precisely the Fox News hyperbole I was speaking about.
1. 99.9999% of locals gave 2 shts about Milo-whats-his-face's grand standing, and 99.9999% of locals gave 2 shts about the extremist fanatics that opposed him and his ilk.
2. If a conservative want to woo us, then talk like this:
3. I think the moderate image has been badly tarnished by insults by both the left and right.
But I digress.
03-17-2019, 05:45 PM
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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18Montclair
This^ is precisely the Fox News hyperbole I was speaking about.
1. 99.9999% of locals gave 2 shts about Milo-whats-his-face's grand standing, and 99.9999% of locals gave 2 shts about the extremist fanatics that opposed him and his ilk.
2. If a conservative want to woo us, then talk like this:
3. I think the moderate image has been badly tarnished by insults by both the left and right.
But I digress.
Milo wasn't grand standing he had to leave the city in fear. It's not hyperbole if it really happened. Just keep making excuses for the crazy libs that are all over that area and keep watching conservatives leaving. You can't complain and defend on the same topic.
I'm just trying to explain how conservatives might see things there and feel helpless and outnumbered and you accuse me of hyperbole and get all defensive. What exactly do you want to happen there? All conservatives just go lockstep with the far left there and maintain status quo? Then you'll happily live with them for the variety in life (but there is no real variety you won't stand for it)
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03-17-2019, 06:06 PM
Location: On the water.
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Milo wasn't grand standing he had to leave the city in fear. It's not hyperbole if it really happened. Just keep making excuses for the crazy libs that are all over that area and keep watching conservatives leaving. You can't complain and defend on the same topic.
Finper stop. Obviously the nutcases in New Zealand, Norway, Quebec, Pittsburg, Charlottsville, Charleston SC, Sutherland Springs TX, .... (I can go on at length). .... don’t represent 99.999% of conservatives, right?
Montclair’s point ...
Stop with the broad brush lables. That is precisely the problem being addressed here.
03-17-2019, 06:09 PM
Location: Scottsdale
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18Montclair
I don't like this. We need conservative voices to temper our prevailing views, and they need to be around us so they don't forget that we are all the same once you peel apart what I view as mostly superficial differences. It's not good that theyre only exposure to people with opposing views is a media outlet so toxic and divisive as Fox News.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/...-move-out/amp/
LOL, oh really, check the man in the mirror ... don't forget CNN and MSNBC !
It's funny, I hear people say, oh gee, we need more diverse voices, but as soon as one shows up, wowee, do they get all discombobulated. What they mean is a slightly less radical part of the progressive spectrum.
The good news is the red states will get redder, the blue states will get bluer.
Everyone will be happy(er). We can trade as we see fit, and well, there goes the "United" States of America. We will be, or rather, are already, less united than the countries in the EU.
I'm not going to assess blame, everyone has their rock solid assessment of the other side trying to pull the country apart, so let's not go there, we will never agree.
03-17-2019, 06:20 PM
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Finper
Milo wasn't grand standing.
That's all he does. Why get so emotional defending a troll? Well looking at whose in the White House, I guess Im not surprised.
Quote:
Just keep making excuses for the crazy libs that are all over that area and keep watching conservatives leaving.
Again, We want real conservatives like this:
03-17-2019, 06:31 PM
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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That's all he does. Why get so emotional defending a troll? Well looking at whose in the White House, I guess Im not surprised.
Again, We want real conservatives like this:
This isn't 1979 and the topic isn't the border. And I agree Reagan was a decent President he did a lot of good
03-17-2019, 06:59 PM
Location: On the water.
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Finper
This isn't 1979 and the topic isn't the border. And I agree Reagan was a decent President he did a lot of good
Disagree. Reagan was one of the worst POTUS ever. But not because he was a conservative.
Good examples? HW Bush (who I voted for) and Eisenhower come quickly to mind in the top slot. But there are many in congress even today whom I would support.
The point is: balance comes from sane, experienced minds. Polarization is grandstanding.
03-17-2019, 07:55 PM
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Disagree. Reagan was one of the worst POTUS ever. But not because he was a conservative.
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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