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Old 03-24-2020, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I’m sorry if it’s a silly question. I havent been to the City in 7-8 years and remember that there was still a “working class”, but then noticed that some who were lucky enough to have parents nearby went to live with them. My friends lived in a 2BR makeshift apartment in the Haight for about $2,500/mo, which they said was a bargain. They have since left as well. Meanwhile, we keep reading about gentrification of the Mission District, one of the last working class enclaves in the City. So, are there any middle class folks left?
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Richmond, CA
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So, are there any middle class folks left?
Yes.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:41 PM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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Middle class? What middle class? You are either poor or rich in the bay area. It's been that way for 20 years.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:31 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Rent control.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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I’m sorry if it’s a silly question. I havent been to the City in 7-8 years and remember that there was still a “working class”, but then noticed that some who were lucky enough to have parents nearby went to live with them. My friends lived in a 2BR makeshift apartment in the Haight for about $2,500/mo, which they said was a bargain. They have since left as well. Meanwhile, we keep reading about gentrification of the Mission District, one of the last working class enclaves in the City. So, are there any middle class folks left?
Yes. Most average poor people are ignored by news outlets and other media establishments. The actual every day lives of poor people such as picking out clothes to wear for the day, cleaning the house, managing chronic medical conditions such as blindness and respiratory diseases, reading, writing, doing odd jobs and care taking does not fit the narrative.
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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As already mentioned above, unless you are a long term tenant of a rent controlled apt, SF is no longer affordable unless you have a $$ salary/income. The Mission Dist has become rather expensive.
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Houston
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As already mentioned above, unless you are a long term tenant of a rent controlled apt, SF is no longer affordable unless you have a $$ salary/income. The Mission Dist has become rather expensive.
Is the Ellis Act still being used in Calif to evict from rent-stabilized units?
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Is the Ellis Act still being used in Calif to evict from rent-stabilized units?



https://www.sftu.org/ellis/
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:03 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Yes. I own a rent controlled 6-unit apartment building in the mission/dolores park area. Four of the tenants are originals and have lived here for over 30 years (and are paying $1100/month in rent for 2-bedroom apartments). They are middle class/lower middle class. I have only had two vacancies in 30 years and those two occurred because the tenants died. One unit is paying about $2200 (he moved in 12 years ago) and the other current level rent (moved in 2 years ago).

This isn't unusual. I know other owners with similar buildings and friends who are renting apartments in rent-controlled buildings and have lived there for 30 years.

Edited to add - when I say middle class, that is what would be considered middle class in the bay area. People who are architects, building inspectors with the city, etc.

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Old 03-25-2020, 11:13 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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There's always Hunter's Point.
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