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Old 05-06-2020, 09:38 PM
 
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San Francisco providing alcohol, drugs to homeless in hotels

https://www.ktvu.com/news/debate-ens...less-in-hotels


SAN FRANCISCO - San Francisco's Department of Public Health said on Wednesday that it provides alcohol, nicotine and other addictive substances for the homeless they are housing in the city's empty hotel rooms. It's part of a plan to help the unhoused population quarantine rather than out on the streets.

"With regard to supporting people who are at risk, or who need to be in quarantine or isolation because they're COVID positive, our focus needs to be on supporting them," said Dr. Grant Colfax from San Francisco's Department of Public Health. "Meeting them where they are so that they can be cared for in the most appropriate way. In the way that's good for them and for our community."

The health department confirmed that about 10% of their quarantine guests have received tobacco products. 11 guests have received medically appropriate amounts of alcohol to prevent alcohol withdrawal.
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:50 PM
 
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Hello, New Member posting what s/he hopes will be an inflammatory news item. Do you really think we're dumb enough to fall for this?

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The health department confirmed that about 10% of their quarantine guests have received tobacco products. 11 guests have received medically appropriate amounts of alcohol to prevent alcohol withdrawal.

The city confirmed on social media that they are providing those substance for free. Health officials said the practice isn't unique, and that it's not paid for with tax dollars.


The city's health department said harm reduction strategies are scientifically proven to be more effective than trying to force people to go cold turkey.

The department said staff has received deliveries for medical cannabis for those with prescriptions paid for by the guests or in whatever way they would ordinarily pay for that cannabis.
Did you omit that clarifying information for a reason, or was it just an oversight?

FYI, this is nothing new. The City of Seattle owns several apartment buildings, where it's been housing (formerly) homeless alcoholics for decades, and providing them with free food and alcohol. If you hate SF, don't move to Seattle.

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Old 05-06-2020, 11:27 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I think this is the responsible, compassionate thing to do. People who are dependent on drugs or alcohol who suddenly have no access to them aren't going to stay quietly in their rooms and say, "Oh, well." They're going to be out on the streets trying to get what they need. This is not good for them or for the public.

Of course right wing websites are having a field day with this story, including inflammatory headlines such as "Party Time! S.F. Gives Free Drugs and Booze to Homeless People."
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Beautiful free Arizona
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Hello, New Member posting what s/he hopes will be an inflammatory news item. Do you really think we're dumb enough to fall for this?

From your linked article:


Did you omit that clarifying information for a reason, or was it just an oversight?

FYI, this is nothing new. The City of Seattle owns several apartment buildings, where it's been housing (formerly) homeless alcoholics for decades, and providing them with free food and alcohol. If you hate SF, don't move to Seattle.
I’m curious what a medically appropriate amount of alcohol is???? Is a bartender going door to door handing out little shot glasses of vodka? Who’s paying for this if it isn’t taxpayers ? What happens if the addicts start to party and ignore social distancing? So many questions....
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:13 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I’m curious what a medically appropriate amount of alcohol is????
Medically appropriate probably means just enough to keep them stable and prevent them from going into withdrawal. I wonder how this is determined?

The program is funded by private donations, so we don't know exactly who's paying for it. I seriously doubt if bartenders are involved. As for the "party" question, if they're going to do that it's probably safer in a hotel than on the streets.
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