The Bay Area is about to lock down again (San Diego: living in, racist)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Well, look, you need 1.5 million signatures for this to pass. In a state of 20-30 million voters and maybe 30-40% Republican, of course you're going to find enough people who would sign onto this. Highly unlikely they were Newsom voters in the first place and this is just the catalyst to raise their previous concerns.

But, there's a huge difference between obtaining enough signatures for the recall election and actually obtaining the votes to put a Republican candidate in office. I wouldn't hold my breath on the latter if I were you.

Well I said I already said the odds were long didn't I? So not sure why you thought I'd be holding my breath for it to happen given that. Even if the recall happens and he survives hopefully it damages his career enough to prevent him running for an even higher office.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

Well I said I already said the odds were long didn't I? So not sure why you thought I'd be holding my breath for it to happen given that. Even if the recall happens and he survives hopefully it damages his career enough to prevent him running for an even higher office.

Maybe so, but only time will tell. For years its been said that a California politician (especially from SF) will not appeal to the general US population. This has largely been debunked with Kamala being elected as VP, which will give her a fighting chance at the Presidency if Biden decides to retire in 4 years or hits his term limits in 8.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Maybe so, but only time will tell. For years its been said that a California politician (especially from SF) will not appeal to the general US population. This has largely been debunked with Kamala being elected as VP, which will give her a fighting chance at the Presidency if Biden decides to retire in 4 years or hits his term limits in 8.

Not sure being elected VP when your opponent was someone like Trump "debunks" that. It's not like the main motivation to vote for Biden was her either. She never even made it to the presidential primary election and polled pretty badly in CA before she pulled out.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

Not sure being elected VP when your opponent was someone like Trump "debunks" that. It's not like the main motivation to vote for Biden was her either. She never even made it to the presidential primary election and polled pretty badly in CA before she pulled out.

We'll see about this. Trump has been a horrible president (IMO) and has alienated moderates. On the other hand, he has a unyielding base that may spell trouble for any moderate Republican candidates for years to come. Either way, I think this is going to cause issues for Republicans winning national elections into the future as well, until the Republican party actually reforms itself to appeal to a broader percentage of the population.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

We'll see about this. Trump has been a horrible president (IMO) and has alienated moderates. On the other hand, he has a unyielding base that may spell trouble for any moderate Republican candidates for years to come. Either way, I think this is going to cause issues for Republicans winning national elections into the future as well, until the Republican party actually reforms itself to appeal to a broader percentage of the population.

I'm not sure if that would be much of a factor in CA. I think republicans here will take anything they can get at this point. And as bad as Trump was democrats didn't really do that well in this election overall. Lost a bunch of house seats and may or may not win the Senate. There wasn't a "blue wave" as many anticipated.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

I'm not sure if that would be much of a factor in CA. I think republicans here will take anything they can get at this point. And as bad as Trump was democrats didn't really do that well in this election overall. Lost a bunch of house seats and may or may not win the Senate. There wasn't a "blue wave" as many anticipated.

Sure, pulling back to CA, I don't see a Republican winning governor regardless (nothing to do with Trump).

On a national scale, I do think the Republicans did a better job with PR in terms of using scare tactics around socialism and other BS. The Democrats need to learn to message more clearly and concisely for future elections. However, I also do think the long-term demographic changes will continue to benefit them in national elections and at the House level. At the Senate level, its more mixed, given the oversized representation of the less populated red states.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Maybe so, but only time will tell. For years its been said that a California politician (especially from SF) will not appeal to the general US population. This has largely been debunked with Kamala being elected as VP, which will give her a fighting chance at the Presidency if Biden decides to retire in 4 years or hits his term limits in 8.

Kamala elected? She was chosen because she’s a black female liberal. She was the first person to drop out of the primaries. Nobody likes her not even the blacks. As for Biden making it 4 years he better get a food taster.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Finper

Kamala elected? She was chosen because she’s a black female liberal. She was the first person to drop out of the primaries. Nobody likes her not even the blacks. As for Biden making it 4 years he better get a food taster.

Well, she was elected on the Biden ticket. If nobody liked her, this would've spelled the doom for Biden. Look what happened in 2008 when McCain selected Palin for his running mate.

Just because YOU don't like her doesn't mean you speak for all the voters in this country.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Sure, pulling back to CA, I don't see a Republican winning governor regardless (nothing to do with Trump).

On a national scale, I do think the Republicans did a better job with PR in terms of using scare tactics around socialism and other BS. The Democrats need to learn to message more clearly and concisely for future elections. However, I also do think the long-term demographic changes will continue to benefit them in national elections and at the House level. At the Senate level, its more mixed, given the oversized representation of the less populated red states.

Don't really think "socialism" was much of an effective scare tactic with Biden, he's hardly someone you can label that. Democrats did a pretty good job of shooting themselves in the foot with crap like "defund the police". What long term demographic changes are you referring to?

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Finper

Kamala elected? She was chosen because she’s a black female liberal. She was the first person to drop out of the primaries. Nobody likes her not even the blacks. As for Biden making it 4 years he better get a food taster.

Lol, I've said the same thing numerous times.

https://starecat.com/biden-we-did-it...-from-a-cliff/