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Old 05-24-2024, 05:24 PM
Location: SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by john3232 View Post
How about a soccer stadium?
No doubt there will be limited parking and the city will expect people to take BART, which no one wants to do anymore. And the quality and number of jobs it will create is iffy. But it will bring people in and if the city promises to keep the homeless in check it might actually help the area.
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Old 05-26-2024, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tulemutt View Post
Just how much more development do you suggest we need?

Personally, I’m voting for more parks.
I suggest starting with those residents who are presently without housing.

Source: https://calmatters.org/housing/homel...me-count-2024/

"The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, which requires the counts every other year, compiles the data from across the country into an annual report submitted to Congress. Last year, the department tallied 181,399 unhoused Californians — 28% of the nation’s total homeless population. That’s up nearly 40% from five years ago."

"Experts agree the real number is higher than the count."

This cost of construction figure is out-of-date now, but the last time I looked the estimate was somewhere between $200,000 to $250,000 to build each unit in a multi-unit building out in the Central Valley. These projected units would house 1-2 persons each.

Doing the math while using median values and 180,000 homeless people requiring housing, that's a $27 billion price tag for construction alone. City and county charges for schools, roads, water and sewer, and other upcharges would likely add another 1/3 to the overall cost of housing the state's homeless population. Then comes the cost of maintaining people who are unable to maintain themselves in the present environment. This in a state once again facing the bust of a nearly $100 billion budget shortfall after enjoying yet another burst of boom years.

No wonder so many Californians find parks to be a more salubrious approach to living in a state with such a remarkably long list of expensive issues. As a former grade-school-through-retirement resident of the City whose joint income was well into six figures by the mid-80s, had we stayed, I probably would have opted for parks, too.
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Old Today, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mattja View Post
Looking at downtown Denver these days, I can believe it.
Downtown, yea. It's no doubt seen better days, and the never-ending construction along 16th St Mall doesn't help.

But just a mile or so away, it's BOOMTOWN, USA. LoDo, RiNo, HiLo and Highlands... crowds, youth, yups and their pups, building galore, mushrooming businesses/eateries/bars, condos, apartments, townhouses... growth on steroids.
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