Oakland A's Attendance Woes Featured in Chronicle Today (San Jose, Fremont: renters, loft)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

As a real estate professional, it's laughable that you would compare the acquisition of Oakland's most prominent business complex to the private funding of a super stadium for a failed baseball team.

That simply shows how misinformed about commercial real estate you truly are.

The only thing that's misinformed and laughable is your shameless lie that the damage from the Meserhle trial totaled $20 Million.

Furthermore, you stated:
Why would rich people want to invest money into a city where the police have basically said "We won't be responding to crimes anymore."

And the answer is, rich people already do invest money in Oakland.

Lots. This is not a debatable point.

[18Montclair]

Furthermore, you are not a real estate professional. You are a racist waiter.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

The only thing that's misinformed and laughable is your shameless lie that the damage from the Meserhle trial totaled $20 Million.

Furthermore, you stated:
Why would rich people want to invest money into a city where the police have basically said "We won't be responding to crimes anymore."

And the answer is, rich people already do invest money in Oakland.

Lots. This is not a debatable point.

Yes rich people will invest in office space in Oakland if they can get it under market value, that's called a "bargain."

Last time I checked though, Office complexes don't have the same crowd control issues that baseball stadiums have.

Hmm, that's your queue to go ahead and pick up a book about commercial real estate so you can learn why you're point is laughable and misinformed.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Hmm, that's your queue to go ahead and pick up a book about commercial real estate so you can learn why you're point is laughable and misinformed.

This from the ultimate in armchair experts.

Good one.

[UPT Oakland]

This idiot is always wrong, every forum he pollutes hates him also, this guy is the biggest loser i've ever encountered online. I'm wondering when he's going to show us his 20 million in damages source. We are waiting.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

This from the ultimate in armchair experts.

Good one.

Check and mate.

[llowllevellowll]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Yes rich people will invest in office space in Oakland if they can get it under market value, that's called a "bargain."

Last time I checked though, Office complexes don't have the same crowd control issues that baseball stadiums have.

Hmm, that's your queue to go ahead and pick up a book about commercial real estate so you can learn why you're point is laughable and misinformed.

1) What crowd control issues have there ever been at an A's game? lol

My guess is that you've never even been to an A's game. Would I be correct? You mentioned a few pages back that everyone's car gets vandalized at the Complex - and they don't, by the way. For Warriors and A's games, I park off-stadium property on San Pablo and walk and I've never even had an issue then. That sort of exemplifies the problem with the A's stadium - it's not that it's in a bad neighborhood, it's that it sits in an area that has absolutely nothing around it.

2) Your Barry Bonds excuse REMAINS uneducated. You know so very little about baseball but want to make bad baseball analogies. The Cleveland Indians went to the world series TWICE, sold out 484 CONSECUTIVE games, won the AL Central title 8 or 9 straight times and had stars - Jim Thome, Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Roberto Alomar, etc, but do you know what they're drawing now? A lower attendance than the Oakland Athletics.

SF isn't drawing 35,000 a game because they used to have Barry Bonds and went to a world series once in a decade - they're going because the team is not awful, they have an easy-access park that's worth going to. They are quite similar to the A's in the fact that before they got those amenities, no one showed up. IN FACT, The A's have better attendance than the Giants did in the same situation!

You are wholly uneducated on baseball.

3) When are you going to respond to two lies you blatantly posted in this thread?

a. The riots caused 20 million in damage
b. 25,000 seats = 75% of Candlesticks capacity

All you do is make up your own statistics for whatever argument you need lol

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Check and mate.

sounds like I hit a sore spot.

Don't worry, Im sure somebody takes you seriously.

[Mr. Fantastic]

I think the Oakland crew has finally stopped addressing the main points at hand:

1) Oakland has the highest crime rate in California
2) Because of #1, no one will invest into the JLS Stadium project.
3) Because of not being able to accept #1 and #2, Oakland has plenty of problems ahead in the near and far future.

[UPT Oakland]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

I think the Oakland crew has finally stopped addressing the main points at hand:

Say's the loser who kept bringing up 20 Million in Damages.