Meserhle Trial for death of Oscar Grant begins in LA (Oakland: shops, area)

[ssmaster]

mr fantastic - i(and others) posted links to our sources reporting many out of town anarchist involved in the rioting.

why don't you link to a reputable source that reports the opposite ?
please post link to your $20 million in damage source.

[lmk1707]

Originally Posted by UPT Oakland

You know that the majority of these people last night are not from Oakland right?

I am aware that most of the rioters were not from Oakland (see my post regarding anarchist website riot-inciters), however many of the peaceful protesters were. I was just pointing out to the other poster why there would be a lot of attention around this case, and less obvious attention around other killings that happen in Oakland.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by UPT Oakland

You know that the majority of these people last night are not from Oakland right?

Yup.

The vast majority of those arrested for inciting violence and looting were not Oakland residents.

I believe the Police Chief called them "Professional Anarchists".

[UPT Oakland]

Originally Posted by lmk1707

I am aware that most of the rioters were not from Oakland (see my post regarding anarchist website riot-inciters), however many of the peaceful protesters were. I was just pointing out to the other poster why there would be a lot of attention around this case, and less obvious attention around other killings that happen in Oakland.

The attention comes from the rarity of the event. Cop kills unarmed civilian. When an innocent person is killed in Oakland it gets attention and there are marches also. But the pleas are to those doing the killing who aren't listening. With this at least the cops listen or pretend to so this doesn't happen again. Police don't like this sort of thing on their reputation.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by UPT Oakland

1 Photo you idiot 90 People arrested. Troll.

[lmk1707]

Originally Posted by UPT Oakland

The attention comes from the rarity of the event. Cop kills unarmed civilian. When an innocent person is killed in Oakland it gets attention and there are marches also. But the pleas are to those doing the killing who aren't listening. With this at least the cops listen or pretend to so this doesn't happen again. Police don't like this sort of thing on their reputation.

I'm not disagreeing - we're basically saying the same thing in different ways. He was wondering at the 'irony' of the attention around this event, and the reasons I think are fourfold: 1) as you say, the rarity, 2) the fact that it is an institutional killing, rather than one borne of complicated cultural factors, 3) the willingness of people at the institution-level to listen to complaints, as opposed to those who would turn a deaf ear, and 4) protests over other killings are more sad/sedate and therefore garner less attention in the media, therefore part of it is only a perception that demonstrations do not happen, when in fact they do.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

mr fantastic - i(and others) posted links to our sources reporting many out of town anarchist involved in the rioting.

I have been linking sources that show that it wasn't just "white anarchist wearing bandannas" causing trouble in the city.

Pictures are worth a 1000 words, do any of these people look white to you?







Looks like the guys wearing bandannas are black too.

I've read what's being reported in the "rag tag" eblogs like East Bay Express that you've chosen to cite, and I'm saying the REALITY of the situation isn't being reported. Whether that's due to some liberal agenda to try and not criminalize blacks unfairly in the media, or some other reason, it's obvious that it wasn't "all white kids with bandannas" causing the chaos. A lot of it was caused by black Oakland residents.

[lmk1707]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

I have been linking sources that show that it wasn't just "white anarchist wearing bandannas" causing trouble in the city.

Pictures are worth a 1000 words, do any of these people look white to you?







Looks like the guys wearing bandannas are black too.

I've read what's being reported in the "rag tag" eblogs like East Bay Express that you've chosen to cite, and I'm saying the REALITY of the situation isn't being reported. Whether that's due to some liberal agenda to try and not criminalize blacks unfairly in the media, or some other reason, it's obvious that it wasn't "all white kids with bandannas" causing the chaos. A lot of it was caused by black Oakland residents.

Are black people automatically from Oakland?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by lmk1707

Are black people automatically from Oakland?

Are white people automatically from out of town?

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Pictures are worth a 1000 words

But they don't tell the whole story.

do any of these people look white to you?

Actually look closely at your own pics.

There is a white man in the first pic and at least 2 white people, maybe three in the third one.