Oakland Projects and Business Development (Montclair, London: transfer, taxis, dangerous)

[mini_cute]

Originally Posted by sav858

He isn't serious about the Coliseum.. Lew Wolff doesn't want to be anywhere in Oakland period. I believe the main excuse he gave regarding HT was clean up costs and environmental concerns.

Howard Terminal is only a small part of the Port of Oakland and it's away from the bulk of operations and traffic.

Why doesn't Lew Wolff want it in Oakland, period?

[Stephen1110]

Originally Posted by mini_cute

Why doesn't Lew Wolff want it in Oakland, period?

My guess - he plans on running for San Jose mayors office

[sav858]

Originally Posted by mini_cute

Why doesn't Lew Wolff want it in Oakland, period?

He's been trying to move the team to San Jose for years.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by jade408

My big hesitation with site is really that it hasn't really been well earmarked for any regional plan/development. And unless a whole bunch of stuff can be queued up and kinda build the neighborhood at the same time as the park opens, it won't be an awesome experience for a few more years.

I'd like to see a corresponding area plan for that location as well, on who it will connect with downtown, Jack London Square etc. And how those gaps will get filled in to create some vibrancy.

I don't really understand why this is a hesitation of yours considering AT&T was the same way and look at how that neighborhood turned out. That's generally how these ballparks built in this type of area works. Petco Park was a little different has it was closer to an area that had already been redeveloped but the areas immediately adjacent to it took off after the park opened.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by sav858

I don't really understand why this is a hesitation of yours considering AT&T was the same way and look at how that neighborhood turned out. That's generally how these ballparks built in this type of area works. Petco Park was a little different has it was closer to an area that had already been redeveloped but the areas immediately adjacent to it took off after the park opened.

I feel like there was enough coordination around the area of pacbell park when it was proposed that when it came together, so many other pieces were ready. Like the revitalization of the Embacadero was already done so when the park opened that walking path was ready. And there was a good amount of infrastructure completed or far in the pipeline. Oakland isn't great at getting its act together quickly with the current leadership, and there isn't even a roadmap for Howard terminals development.

[mini_cute]

Originally Posted by sav858

He's been trying to move the team to San Jose for years.

Yes, but why has he been trying to move the team to San Jose for years??

[sav858]

Originally Posted by jade408

I feel like there was enough coordination around the area of pacbell park when it was proposed that when it came together, so many other pieces were ready. Like the revitalization of the Embacadero was already done so when the park opened that walking path was ready. And there was a good amount of infrastructure completed or far in the pipeline. Oakland isn't great at getting its act together quickly with the current leadership, and there isn't even a roadmap for Howard terminals development.

What of that was actually related to the ballpark? The Embarcadero came about because of them tearing down the freeway after the quake. Jack London Square has been slowly redeveloping for a while now, I don't understand why you discount that area as if there's nothing already happening in this area. This is about building a ballpark first and foremost as the team needs it. This proposal is pretty early in its infancy so I'm not sure exactly what you're expecting as far as redevelopment proposals.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by mini_cute

Yes, but why has he been trying to move the team to San Jose for years??

To make more money.

[mini_cute]

Originally Posted by sav858

To make more money.

How would moving to SJ make him more money? Is it because the residents there are more affluent? Larger population base? Or too much overlap with SF Giants?

I guess I can see why he'd want to take them there.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by mini_cute

How would moving to SJ make him more money? Is it because the residents there are more affluent? Larger population base? Or too much overlap with SF Giants?

I guess I can see why he'd want to take them there.

That and corporate sponsors. There are other threads on here about it and plenty of stuff on the internet.