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Old 12-08-2006, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX, born + raised SF Bay
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I agree, I miss home. I was born in 1985 at Washington Hospital in Fremont, and was raised in a little house in Milpitas. We moved away last year and although I love Texas, the Bay Area is home and I miss it.

I have also thought on and off about someday moving back, though I think I'd go to Southern California just to try it out + get more of a taste of what it's like. I myself am going to use a travel trailer because it's a little bit cheaper, I hate apartments, and I can't afford a house in California, not by a long shot.
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Old 12-08-2006, 04:07 PM
 
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That's a great idea! A lot EZ'r though if you don't have a family of more than two.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:22 AM
 
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Hi Sandy,
I think I can give you a bit of information since I lived in California for 20 years and then moved to Sarasota Florida, just south of Tampa 4 years ago.

As for California, Since I moved there when I was 18 my experience was it was the greatest place to be when in your 20's! Fun Fun Fun Everywhere! I lived in the San Jose Area/Cupertino and although rent was high, jobs were available and you could always find a cute house to rent under $1400.00. I think it is still pretty afordable up there, however you do have a problem finding afordable homes to actually purchase if you are alone.

The weather is great and there is so much to do in California. It is often just a $49.99 flight to Reno or Tahoe or Vegas! And even to San Francisco, Seattle or Portland! This makes opportunity for travel all over the west coast very afordable! There are also packages all the time that are very afordable. Lots of fun things to do with friends.....

Then there are places like Napa and Yosimite and The dessert, Montery, Pacific Grove and Santa Cruz. Disneyland and all the Hollywood stuff...........it is very accessable and easy to do day trips to.
It is also common for people in Ca to go camping at the beach or up in the mountains, or do day trips for picnics to any of these places. I could go on and on about the wonderful places to see in California.

The people are very nice in California too. They are busy so you have to make an effort. Many people are trying to move up the corporate ladder to get more $$$.... but for the most part they are more open to diversity and new people. That is my experience. There are also alot of very intellegent people in Ca also. Not to say there are not all types of people and you will run across grumpy narrow minded......but often they even know that it is less acceptable and will refrain.

As for Tampa area, the weather is always warm............will most of the year anyway. We had 80+ degrees last week and this week it has been cooler in the 60S surprisingly. This is the first time my son has worn a jacket or pants to school since last February. It wont last for long.

I like this time of year here because the misquitos are not as bad...... and there ARE Alligators in almost every lake here...........or so you should believe because they can be very dangerous and people are always making light of them.......... The beaches are WONDERFUL if the red tide is gone.............. The ocean is beautiful and they are not as crowded as the ones in Californina. The beaches in Sarasota are known all over the world and always rated at the top of the best beaches lists.

The people in Tampa area are for the most part older, however there is a growing number of younger people moving here. I hear alot of younger people that were raised here are leaving but alot that use to live here or vacation here every year growing up are moving here. The nightlife in Sarasota is very richy! Many socialites.......They even have a magazine that puts photos of them all dressed up at all of the affairs in it every month. I have never seen anything like it before.

There are alot of conservative thinkers here.............older population still pretty much runs the government. That may change as the older population dies and more younger move here. Sarasota was names the numner one place to move to/live for a couple of years in a row about 5 years ago.

The Arts is a bit deal in Sarasota. Tampa is somewhat run down but there are alot of newer communities all around it and housing prices are really dropping.

Hope this all helps................I could go on and on.

And PS.....We did have an earthquake in Tampa/Sarasota last year 2006......And the hurricane season is always stressful- but being prepared makes it easier. I was living in Ca during many big earthquakes and the stress is basically the same. Just have an emergency plan and kit so you are ready if it happens.
GOOD LUCK!!
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:32 PM
 
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Here is my Bay Area perspective as a long time resident. (born in Seattle, moved here with family when I was two, grew up in Palo Alto, spent nearly all my adult life in Mountain View.)

This is what I realized early on as an adult:

The region has it's mostly unchanging geographical features such as climate. SF was and is an urban and cultural center, and still sits approx 40 miles to the north. San Jose, ten miles south, has changed of course but I never developed close ties there even most of my working hours have been spent there or nearby. It stuggles to be urbane yet is mainly suburban and not especially unique.

I'm not particularly extroverted but have always known my neighboors at least to the extent that we give one another a heads up if any of us takes off for more than a few days. Being social, if only nominally, is a choice. The choice came naturally to my parents back in the day, and probably didn't have anything to do with coming from Washington, i.e. outside the state. So here is something I've wondered about through years of adulthood while watching California evolve: How is it that folks move here from wherever and lodge the same complaint year after year, that they don't get to know their neighboor and how different that is from back home? How did this happen? I mean, nobody consciously decides to chuck their all-american values when enter the state. So what has been the problem with breaking the ice, and how far has anyone actually gone to find that it can't be done?

I'm pretty sure the Bay Area, like much of California, has always had a live and let live attitude. I have to look back in order to draw that conclusion, as it's something I'd not normally thought much about. Really though, there was never any unique code re relations with neighboors that was intact as I grew up. What we did (and put it in whichever terms are comfortably loaded) was merely Christian, or American, or dare I say human. So I advise those who relocated here that you arrived to an essentially blank slate, albiet with nice physical amenties to go with cramped back yards (depending on when you arrived. What did you bring us? Look at it like a block party or pot luck where everyone brings something, just like back home.

At some point in the 70's, while in my twenties, I noticed an opportunity to make a silent stance based on native observation. I was seeing pristine Oregon (not being a wise guy...it really is lovely) begin to resent California. They had good reason as crowded tracts had begun to spring up here. It certainly was a different and somewhat shortsighted concept of growth, but that housing was to support a high tech (yes, even then) defense industry which segued right into the computer age. My choice was this: Do I resent people flocking to my region to man these attractive jobs, knowing there was plenty of work for all? It became obvious that having these major industries a short drive from my front door would eventally attract "outsiders". I figured no, I'd rather have steady work and take the chance that all comers would take care to preserve the values and standard I had always known. I saw provincialism raging in Oregon and rejected that stance. We'll be fine here, all of us. Certainly no one, not from the heartland states, would undermine my standard of living...their standard of living...by setting up 100+ mile rountrip daily commutes for themselves.
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:33 PM
 
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What I'm hitting on is that standard of living is a mindset, and a set of choices based on values. We make our own conditions based on those values. I'm not preaching. C'mon, we all know this. All I'm asking is for everyone, with all due respect (and it is due), to take responsibility for the consessions you might have made along the way and see if they've encroached on the values you hold dear.

I've watched neighbors come and go through the years and buy, hold, do a cursory spruce up, and sell their property for nice profit. I've seen that coldly done with machine like efficiency by slick young husband/wife teams. More power to them. Hard workers to a fault. Just realize that they're not all far up the rung corporate developers. It's a nuance of the American Dream I suppose, but how am I not unlike the native Texan who sees "Californians" coming with a U-haul full-o-cash to pinch his surrounding land. No, I couldn't possibly relate to that Texan could I?

I sound bitter. Really I'm not, honest. My creed is: change things if I can but be satisfied just know what's going on. From there I can take my best course and assume responsibility for it. My read on "what is going on" is blunt but not a source of bitterness. I've never put any of this out publically and I hope folks will take it all as a native's perspectives, made from a kind of mini-Michner, same spot observational perch.

Illegal imigrants at our intersections and on our street corners: Our apathy, all of ours whether we're Republican or Democrat, enabled what it all has come to. It is all the same shift in values, which again I assume everyone arrived with intact, and the set of consessions made which <I>created</I> a false and unnecessary demand for cheap labor. We forget, or never realized to begin with, that this concept of <I>demand</I> naturally progressed out of tacit approval of undercutting local labor and local American businesses. This mindset had our blessing long before anyone was swarming across our border. Now it is in our face and we don't like it. Too late to start thinking all of a sudden, isn't it? Our govt, GOP and Dem administrations through the decades, had this plotted out. Of course they didn't envision as a model what we now face, but the clear intention was to blur the sources of a work force and dismantle notions of local hiring, local spending, and dwelling locally. This latter set, local local local, is the crux of a know your neighbor July 4th picnic in the park standard of living. And my pointing that out renders these observations not as political in nature but a means of bringing us back to square one.

Anyway, the posts I've read here have been a helpful reminder to me as I look to retire in about five years, and relocate perhaps due east to California's Sierra foothills. Yup, that will be a culture shock even though I've stomped around that area quite a bit. The theme here is be prepared for the relocation shock. Respect the potential psycological magnitude of that, and I intend to. When I earlier asked the rhetorical question, "what have you brought", I'll be asking that of myself when I arrive at a different living destination. Thank you all for the tune up, and I hope I contributed something amongst my ramblings.
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Default Ramblings

Ramblings they were. Sorry Robt, appreciate the time you spent on this, but it wasn't very coherent. Can anybody make a stab at translating this?
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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Well, Iam Back and it's 2008.
Just wanted to know what's up in the bay area. My wife and i are going to be visiting Cali this year and boy iam excited about that. My name is Winfred Lee and i posted the 1st post on how i miss home. Iam visiting my dad in Oakland,then i will go to berkely to my old stomping grounds, i know it's going to be a culture shock for me cause i have not seen berkely or Vallejo let alone sanjose in 20yrs. So if you read this give me a shout out
especially those in hayward and Fremont.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: GA (military men)
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Hi, my is Prentiss lee I have a brother name winfred lee i never seen him, i also have a cousin name winfred my dad is from san jose ca let me no


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Hello my name is Lee and i moved from Sanjose ca, in 1987. I now live in Orlando Florida. This place is not like california at all. I miss living in california, because there are so many opprutunities there as far as employment, life style and quality of life. I want to move back to california because of that. I have live in vallejo,berkley,oakland,fresno and last, Sanjose.I wish that i could talk to a few people in sanjose to get an idea what it's like after living there in 1987. If you read this post,please feel free to write back,even if you live in other serounding cities.Hope to here from yopu soon, God Bless!
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:19 PM
 
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Basically a lot of those empty fields and lots now have new buildings. And old houses with big yards tend to be sold and knocked down to fit at least ten houses. Oh and Oakridge got remolded and it's much bigger-although not as big as valley fair. And there's this new-yorky feel area called Santana Row right by Valley fair that adds to the traffic jam.
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