Want California weather, but outside of CA (San Diego, San Jose: gated, living in)

[JohnSoCal]

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

I don't know who's right and who's left, but if people want to move out of California, it's all good. No biggie to most of us here, who hardly notices any one leaving or coming...

I agree. Let all the malcontents leave, the more the better. We love it here and we sure aren't moving anywhere.

[Marv101]

FBI stats have stated that El Paso is the second safest 'large' city in the USA; their population is somewhere around 650K.

I don't know if they have the same humidity problem that Houston, San Antonio & Dallas do.

[chessgeek]

Originally Posted by JohnSoCal

I have lived in both Phoenix and the San Francisco Bay area. I lived in San Jose, Los Gatos, Cupertino, Sunnyvale, and Livermore. I far prefer the weather in the SF Bay area because it is more moderate without the brutal summer heat of Phoenix.

You have to be joking about Bullhead City. I have been there many many times. The weather there is more brutal than Phoenix. I have been there when it was 125 degrees.

Let's face it, you don't like California and are just trying to justify your living in Arizona. Your weather comparisons are absurd.

Livermore easily has the hottest summer temps of those five Bay Area cities (probably the Bay Area's most inland city...I consider Tracy the start of the Central Valley)) and Phoenix probably still exceeds it by at least 10-20 degrees and even more in the evening hours. I have also seen news reports and pictures of those big dust storms in the Valley of the Sun. Someone from Livermore can easily escape the heat with a 30 mile drive on the weekend to San Francisco. People in Phoenix are much further from heat relief if they want to enjoy the outdoors in the summer...maybe Flagstaff about 140 miles away.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by Marv101

FBI stats have stated that El Paso is the second safest 'large' city in the USA; their population is somewhere around 650K.

I don't know if they have the same humidity problem that Houston, San Antonio & Dallas do.

El Paso is not humid. It is a desert and it gets about 8 inches of rain per year.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

I don't know who's right and who's left, but if people want to move out of California, it's all good. No biggie to most of us here, who hardly notices any one leaving or coming...

It's not that I want to move. It's more like I could end up being forced out. That's what happens when home prices and rents outstrip incomes.

The blase "no biggie" attitude makes me angry. Californians do not understand the implications of what they're saying when they say stuff like that.

A friend of mine and I were just discussing this. He moved because he was priced out of CA. We were both discussing how many Californians are clueless about how the state is in decline and it's happening right under their noses (and we have our fair share of disagreements on politics).

[wtbooster]

Mildest weather outside of California in the USA can be found in the southernmost parts of the Southwestern US that are between 4,000 and 7,000 feet in elevation. Unfortunately many of these places are fairly remote and not near any big cities.

[txman210]

Albuquerque fits that bill.

[paleo99]

Originally Posted by txman210

Albuquerque fits that bill.

Albuquerque fits the bill in that it's a high desert, so Lancaster would be a similar place. Being so arid at 5000ft, there are four seasons, just not as extreme as other places. It's still much different from anything near the actual CA coastline, however, which is filled with chaparral and does have humidity via the June Gloom, with almost no snowfall. The city limits of Albuquerque get snow each year. To me ABQ is a mix of Arizona and Colorado.

[BayAreaResiding]

That doesn't exist in the USA.

The only place outside of California, where there is California weather, is probably Southern Italy or something and Spain. I guess.

Why else would people pay $1,000,000 for a small home in California.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by BayAreaResiding

That doesn't exist in the USA.

The only place outside of California, where there is California weather, is probably Southern Italy or something and Spain. I guess.

Why else would people pay $1,000,000 for a small home in California.

There are other, places, they're just not in the U.S. and are thus, off limits to most people.

Parts of South Australia and Western Austrlia have similar climates to California.

Central Chile has a similar climate, although with even cooler summers at equivalent latitutde in CA (i.e. Vina del Mar, Chile would be at the same latitude as Orange County, CA if it were in the Northern Hemisphere, but the climate of Vina del Mar is almost the same as Monterey's in terms of temperature). Inland parts of Central Chile are hotter but not as hot as California's Central Valley.

Coastal northern Chile has a dry, but cool desert version of California's climate (somewhat similar to the Pacific coast of Baja in Mexico).

The Atlantic coasts of Morocco and Portugal have a simimilar climate as California's as well as the Western Cape of South Africa (including Cape Town), but with somewhat warmer summers.

The whole area around the Mediterranean Sea has a similar climate to CA, but with hotter summers; although parts of the southern Mediterranean coast are desert (like Alexandria, Egypt).

Overall, Mediterranean climate zones only make up about 4% of the earth's surface; so not much, unfortunately, as most people like Mediterranean climates.